The 2010-2011 NBA Thread

[zoney!]

well the knicks decided that 2 good games in a row were enough and it was time to suck again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ayk4ZiN4nk

And to U2, no less. Now that Suu Kyi is free, maybe the Knicks Dancers can come on tour with U2.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

it's lebron

Truly tough to watch.

Chris Bosh has been absolutely terrible. So has Spoelstra though. I've been waiting since day 1 for him to be fired. And news flash LeBron James. You're one of the best scorers in the game. Stop passing the ball so much.

pssst... it's not spoelstra.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

pssst... it's not spoelstra.

I dont think it's Spoelstra's fault that Bosh is awful at the moment, but Spoelstra is still a bad coach.

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

Derrick's little cradle the ball/switch hands/scoop it up and in last night was easily the sexiest play of the 2010-11 NBA season so far.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

it's lebron

I dont think it's Spoelstra's fault that Bosh is awful at the moment, but Spoelstra is still a bad coach.

pssst... it's not bosh.

 

[BEAL]

I think i follow the NBA more now just to root against Lebron and his excuses.

 

[iron yuppie]

Yeah, the whole "too much playing time" complaint is ridiculous. The guy has always been impeccably conditioned. He could play ninety minutes if he needed to do so.

 

[Got Philk?]

All I will say is the rock star atmosphere is gone for the Heat and they better figure out some sort of chemistry soon. I could list at least 5-6 teams who have more of a team concept than the Heat.

I could also list 20+ teams who play better defense...

 

[PhilsFan]

All I will say is the rock star atmosphere is gone for the Heat and they better figure out some sort of chemistry soon. I could list at least 5-6 teams who have more of a team concept than the Heat.

I could also list 20+ teams who play better defense...

The vast majority of the entire league has more of a team concept than the Heat.

 

[Got Philk?]

The vast majority of the entire league has more of a team concept than the Heat.

oops...I meant to say 5-6 teams in the Eastern Conference. Even so, my post was weak.

I'll simplify. I never liked LeBron or Bosh. I liked Wade in college, but not in the NBA. Therefore, I hate the Heat.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

pssst... it's not bosh.

psst... Bosh is definitely underperforming in every aspect on the court.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

All I will say is the rock star atmosphere is gone for the Heat and they better figure out some sort of chemistry soon. I could list at least 5-6 teams who have more of a team concept than the Heat.

I could also list 20+ teams who play better defense...

needless to say, the knicks will not be on that list.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

psst... Bosh is definitely underperforming in every aspect on the court.

no, bosh is doing about what most of us here, except for you, expected.

funny... cleveland has a bunch of guys who "underperformed" as well. perhaps it's time some of us stop blaming the help.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

the knicks season is turning into yet another disaster, and it's turning that way quickly. i like d'antoni, loved the hiring when it happened, still think he can be a great coach with the right team... but i'm beginning to think that this isn't the right team; that he isn't the right coach for where the knicks are right now. problem is, i don't know who is.

the raymond felton signing looks like an absolute disaster thus far. he looks like a slightly better version of duhon. he hasn't been able to shoot, he can't get to the rim, and he seems utterly lost on the pick & roll... and d'antoni's entire offense is built around the pick & roll, and amar'e's entire game is built on the pick & roll... so that's a bit of a problem.

i'm at a loss. we have a coach who's supposed to be an offensive genius, and i do believe he's a terrific offensive mind, but the offense sucks. and we know the defense sucks. so, well, the knicks just suck.

 

[Hewson]

no, bosh is doing about what most of us here, except for you, expected.

Thats what I was gonna say. No way I thought Bosh would be a 20/10 producer playing alongside Atilla 1 and Atilla 2.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeBgpQBlP-g

 

[Got Philk?]

the knicks season is turning into yet another disaster, and it's turning that way quickly. i like d'antoni, loved the hiring when it happened, still think he can be a great coach with the right team... but i'm beginning to think that this isn't the right team; that he isn't the right coach for where the knicks are right now. problem is, i don't know who is.

the raymond felton signing looks like an absolute disaster thus far. he looks like a slightly better version of duhon. he hasn't been able to shoot, he can't get to the rim, and he seems utterly lost on the pick & roll... and d'antoni's entire offense is built around the pick & roll, and amar'e's entire game is built on the pick & roll... so that's a bit of a problem.

i'm at a loss. we have a coach who's supposed to be an offensive genius, and i do believe he's a terrific offensive mind, but the offense sucks. and we know the defense sucks. so, well, the knicks just suck.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think you need Rubio.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

I guess the Heat are taking late arrivals seriously..


YouTube - Investigative Report: The Awkward Handshake

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

i guess miami is an awful sports city.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

South Florida, actually. The only team that plays in Miami is the Heat.

Everybody around here isn't actually from here. I'd say the best fans exist with the Dolphins for sure, I'm surprised the Heat fans are so weak this year because tracing back to 04, 05, 06 they were amazing. They all hop on the bandwagon though down here, it's really sad.

The real problem though... be a Marlins or a Panther fan and see how badly they struggle to fill their stands.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

they represent miami, they play in the miami metro area. heck, joe pro player sun life robbie stadium is in "miami gardens."

miami is a terrible sports city. yes, because the majority of the state of florida is made up of cuban immigrants and displaced new yorkers. terrible none the less.

 

[LuckyNumber7]

they represent miami, they play in the miami metro area. heck, joe pro player sun life robbie stadium is in "miami gardens."

miami is a terrible sports city. yes, because the majority of the state of florida is made up of cuban immigrants and displaced new yorkers. terrible none the less.

the BankAtlantic Center is in Sunrise, which isnt even past Ft. Lauderdale.

You also forgot LandShark and Dolphin Stadium.

The Florida Marlins do not [yet] represent Miami. Most people around here consider Miami Gardens equally to Ft. Lauderdale as it is to Miami. South Florida is pretty expansive, most of the fans come from up north in Palm Beach and Broward counties, not Dade county. The fans that show up to the games and the fanbases are representative of South Florida, not Miami.

I cant seem to understand why you have such a distaste for Miami, sounds almost like you just want to egg me on here... unless you've actually lived here I dont see how you could be talking though?

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

yes. it's all about you.

i've been to miami. great city. terrible sports city. nothing to do with you. would hate the heat if you never existed. are we done yet?

 

[LuckyNumber7]

Yup, you caught me again. All about me. Or maybe... just maybe.. we're having a conversation and you cant help but every single time say how terrible of a sports city Miami is to me. As if I need to hear it or something?

You have no basis to call it a bad sports city if you've only just 'been there', honestly. I mean... I'm trying to be agreeable because all of what you're saying isnt wrong, but that seems to be the last thing you want?

I'm not from Miami, so you can hate on it all you'd like. I really dont care, stop telling me about it, not once, or twice, or three times, but four times.

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

I love when D. Rose just decides to take over and drop 17 in the 4th quarter.

 

[Got Philk?]

GAF - Again, I really like this team...a lot. I cannot wait for the Booze.


Mr. 7 - Again...sometimes it is best to let someone else get the last word, and move on with something else. I said this before, so I'll take it to the next step. People have opinions. For example, GAF and I like the Bears and the Bulls. But he can be a real pain in the ass come baseball season because he likes the White Sox. He says some things about the Cubs that I don't agree with, but I don't stew over them because it's a FORUM. And...I know the Cubs have better fans. (except the fake ones who think it's cool to be a fan. I hate them.) Now, I'm done with this and you are on your own now.

Headache - I'm interested in your take on Stoudamire. Explain to me how a 6'9" leap out of the building guy can only grab 3 rebounds in a game. The only thing I can think of is that he is boxing out so well and others are not. Then they just go strait to the basket and get the rebound. I have my doubts though...

Is it a mindset? Does he not care enough about rebounding to consistently get 8-10 rebounds a game?

 

[PhilsFan]

Everyone seems to be "catching" LN7 these days.

 

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Headache - I'm interested in your take on Stoudamire. Explain to me how a 6'9" leap out of the building guy can only grab 3 rebounds in a game. The only thing I can think of is that he is boxing out so well and others are not. Then they just go strait to the basket and get the rebound. I have my doubts though...

Is it a mindset? Does he not care enough about rebounding to consistently get 8-10 rebounds a game?

the thing about stoudamire that i sorta knew going in, but didn't know to this extent, is that he needs a second legit scoring threat on the court to be effective. he really has no post game, isn't overly physical, and is a mediocre defender on his best night.

he's a dynamic offensive weapon because of his athleticism and ability to take bigs off the dribble and knock down a mid-range jumper, but he needs space to operate, which the knicks don't have right now because every defender just collapses on the paint whenever he touches the ball.

that's why the nash-amar'e duo was so good... the defender had to respect nash's ability as well as amar'e's, so the screen/rolls were almost impossible to defend. felton can't shoot and can't get to the basket to score. he's not a pick and roll point guard, but they're trying to make him into one. it's not working.

as far as the rebounding... i think it's a mentality. he just isn't a great defender at all, and is always looking to get out on the break because he's such a great offensive player in transition. it's almost as if amar'e is a 3 stuck in a 4/5's body.

 

[Got Philk?]

So what you are saying is that you would like to get Chris Paul? wow...I think that might work.

 

[Hewson]

I guess the time Chris Bosh spent reading this thread got him motivated to prove some of us wrong.