I'm not arguing in favor of Trump in the least.
If you've paid attention over the past year, you'd know I didn't/don't support him.
I'm just saying, similar to Dave, that folks need to stop labeling his entire voting block as one. Each individual has their own reason for making the choice they made, that's the definition of a democracy.
There is an outrage amongst a lot of Clinton's supporters, and many are taking things to an extreme as a result, and frankly their behavior is no better than the folks they wish to condemn. (I'm not talking about folks in this thread, just to be clear cause I don't want you twisting my words yet again).
I've said enough on the subject.
yeah i understand what you're saying and get your sentiment
i think it's still the heat of the moment, and pretty much the whole world is viewing this as an utter disaster and very dangerous times (apart from Le Pen, Putin, Isis, and the voters lol), but unfortunately it does always just come down to two camps in these things, but i think dialogue is really essential - it's too easy to write people off as idiots, or nutters or wrong, doesn't help anyone in the end, just alienates each side further and widens the divide
a friend of mine here is a proper leftie, supports Melenchon, extreme left, but he feels it's really important to talk to people who support FN extreme right, rather than just call them assholes, to enter into dialogue, discuss issues - never does any harm to get people to look beyond slogans and think a little about things, and try and decipher valid concerns from the crap, but most of all to listen... here in France, philosophy is compulsory on the school curriculum - kids from all walks of life come into their first philosophy lesson with ideas often just learned from their parents, and it's a chance for them to learn new things, to learn how to analyze and think for themselves, discover new ideas, and it gives them such a wider outlook on life - i'm just hoping and praying that over here the Frenchies will get philosophical and think on things deeply and not just accept Le Pen's hateful slogans - will get back to you on that outcome in 6 months' time
although, when it comes to xenophobia, hate speech, any form of racism and abuse, maybe France differs from the US - we have such strict laws and values on that kind of thing - even those kind of words are prosecutable here and generally considered unacceptable in society (although there are elements which are trying to make these things acceptable again)... maybe it's due to our history, war and occupation memories are still very vivid here... will be interesting to see if Le Pen takes a leaf out of Trump's book and tries to push it