This idea that the shows will be filled with "rich people" and there won't be any fans there is utterly laughable
2015 U2 Tour - General Discussion Thread IV
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Hewson
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What will they do with all the champagne and caviar then?
Can't wait to get to the U2 concert!
bono_man2002
Blue Crack Addict
Scalpers come in all ages these days 
Well, I don't think that U2 fans all come from a single income bracket. I think on average, if you could check people's disposable income, you will find those with the $275 dollar tickets tend to have more disposable income on average than those purchasing tickets at the lower price levels. So in that sense, they do constitute the "rich people" at this show.
$275 - The Rich
$95 - The Middle Class
$65 - The Middle Class
$30 - The Lower Class
I mean, to go from $95 to $275 is a huge jump, and on average, only those fans with much more disposable income are going to make that purchase. That $275 price adjusted for inflation would be like paying $140 dollars in 1987 for Joshua Tree Tour tickets. Joshua Tree tour tickets were $16.50 to $19.50 back in 1987. Top scalper prices were $100 dollars to soldout shows for the tour. On average, only the rich can afford that price level.
RaisedByWolves
War Child
Thank you for saying I'm rich, I will be sure to tell that to my accountant.
Oversimplified don't you think? I mean anyone with a credit card who has at least $350 credit on it could purchase a ticket, that doesn't make them rich, it just makes them financially irresponsible.
bfloxng
Refugee
On the JT Tour (my first U2 concert) I was 18 years old and just out of high school and working a crap job. I managed to score a pair of upper corner side view nosebleeds for like $40 after waiting in line all night long (along with hundreds of others) at the venue. On show night, I managed to upgrade to 2nd row floor for $110 (all of the money in my pocket--I was a baller) and my two uppers. Bono was in a sling and had problems with his voice, but I still remember getting sprayed with his sweat when he ripped his hat off, followed by that idiot who ran on stage, with Bono saying, "Don't touch my fucking arm, Mister. Sorry for the language ladies...it's been rough night." Well worth the $150 (probably a week's pay back then).
I didn't say there won't be any fans there. But someone else-- I don't know if it was in this thread or another--said that the way things were going, for many shows the lower tiers will be filled with richer folk and the fans will be split between the nosebleeds and the floor--"pushed back" was how they put it. Also keep in mind the 20% decline LN had in profits last year, this could be due to a lack of big names on the road at that time, but think in general about how concert attendance is declining in general. How many fans out there are like CK, who had planned to go to a show with a bunch of people but didn't, b/c of the prices?
Curious that I don't find many people on here howling about those "bragging rights" Ticketmaster is marketing those Platinum Seats with on their tout site anymore. They clearly know who they are marketing to, even if you have forgotten. You're in the fan club, you got your GA's or other seats you want, so it's now "oh, too bad, so sad" then. Fine. Ticket prices have doubled since the last tour. What was $150 top tier is now $300, and half the seats are for some shows. The outrage has clearly died down also over the fact that you're now allowed only 2 tickets total for a presale instead of the traditional four....and as Matt McGee has written on his site, , *fan club tickets* have been popping up for sale on TM's tout site. Is there a connection maybe, hmmm?? LN/TM dipping their hands into the formerly sacred Fan Club ticket pool? Hey, they own U2 now, at least where touring is concerned, so why not? So maybe that means that for future tours the LN-run U2 Fan Club will only allow I ticket per customer in a presale? "Impossible", you say, but I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility. Given how difficult TM has made it for many husbands and wives to attend a show together, (cc issues) they probably resent the fact that there's a fan club at all.
If the concert industry were not in so much trouble, why go through the trouble of buying PM, if not to explore every last avenue of profit possible? If the concert industry were not in such overall trouble--if fans could still afford shows--they wouldn't care.
If things increase at this exponential rate, no middle-class fan (if there is such a thing as a middle class in the US in 10+ yrs, the fact is very unlikely) will be able to see their Farewell Tour. Are we prepared to pay $500 a ticket for a nosebleed or more? even if we had 4-5 months to save up until the days before the show, some limits are just impossible even then. Should some fans have to skimp on more important things for 4 months to attend? It may not be problem for folks on this tour, who by May many have that money (esp after Tax time) but if prices continue to shoot up exponentially...What's the limit they're prepared to set? One day will 75% of the tickets for show be this top tier price? B/c that's the way it's going.
This is not to accuse anyone on this website of anything. Please don't take offense. But I'm just asking you guys to have a good long think about this. There may still be more empty seat for these shows than you think.
Curious that I don't find many people on here howling about those "bragging rights" Ticketmaster is marketing those Platinum Seats with on their tout site anymore. They clearly know who they are marketing to, even if you have forgotten. You're in the fan club, you got your GA's or other seats you want, so it's now "oh, too bad, so sad" then. Fine. Ticket prices have doubled since the last tour. What was $150 top tier is now $300, and half the seats are for some shows. The outrage has clearly died down also over the fact that you're now allowed only 2 tickets total for a presale instead of the traditional four....and as Matt McGee has written on his site, , *fan club tickets* have been popping up for sale on TM's tout site. Is there a connection maybe, hmmm?? LN/TM dipping their hands into the formerly sacred Fan Club ticket pool? Hey, they own U2 now, at least where touring is concerned, so why not? So maybe that means that for future tours the LN-run U2 Fan Club will only allow I ticket per customer in a presale? "Impossible", you say, but I don't think it's outside the realms of possibility. Given how difficult TM has made it for many husbands and wives to attend a show together, (cc issues) they probably resent the fact that there's a fan club at all.
If the concert industry were not in so much trouble, why go through the trouble of buying PM, if not to explore every last avenue of profit possible? If the concert industry were not in such overall trouble--if fans could still afford shows--they wouldn't care.
If things increase at this exponential rate, no middle-class fan (if there is such a thing as a middle class in the US in 10+ yrs, the fact is very unlikely) will be able to see their Farewell Tour. Are we prepared to pay $500 a ticket for a nosebleed or more? even if we had 4-5 months to save up until the days before the show, some limits are just impossible even then. Should some fans have to skimp on more important things for 4 months to attend? It may not be problem for folks on this tour, who by May many have that money (esp after Tax time) but if prices continue to shoot up exponentially...What's the limit they're prepared to set? One day will 75% of the tickets for show be this top tier price? B/c that's the way it's going.
This is not to accuse anyone on this website of anything. Please don't take offense. But I'm just asking you guys to have a good long think about this. There may still be more empty seat for these shows than you think.
Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
I think you forget one aspect.
Whenever people are huge fans of a certain band, they tend to anticipate tours. I'm by no means rich, but ever since last tour I did put money aside for a future tour. Even if you put as little as 5 euros away each month, it still adds up to quite a bunch of concert tickets and travel expenses. So I *could* Afford the jackass expensive seats if I wanted to. But yeah, GA is more fun and gets me to more shows, so I'd rather pick those..
Raised By Wolves, let me give you myself as an example. I come from a solid middle-tier tax bracket. I had a tidy U2 Concert Fund slowly built up over the past 2 yrs, stashed away. But then I had a health issue (cateract surgery) and even though I had excellent health insurance, it still didn't pay for the anesthesia. I had to pay that off, and it ran into a couple thousand, cash out of pocket. That still would not have affected my sacred Fund; however, other RL issues intervented this past year which drained me so much that I had to dip into the fund. I found it prudent to pay off my credit card and close my account, so I could live within my means. Health care costs are rising, so are food and gas prices. Have you noticed this lately? That still would have been fine with me, if not for those unforeseen circumstances.
Let me repeat: We live in an economy these days where things aren't like 2008 or before. paychecks are getting squeezed, jobs are in danger, nobody knows if they'll get laid off before they can afford $300 in May. The middle class is teetering on a precipice. One unforeseen expense at the wrong time and that carefully saved U2 fund could be wiped out. Too many people today are like this, in this economy. I volunteer for my church and you would not believe the stories. It's a solid church where many folk have a bit of money, even own their own businesses like jeweler stores which have been in the family for generations, but even they are feeling the pinch. Don't believe that horse manure blared in our heads every day, which says: "the economy has recovered, the economy has "bounced back." Bullcrap. Tell that to suburbanites who take charity from the organization they used to donate to. Tell that to people whose incomes are declining, who 5 yrs ago could afford things like a Broadway play, but can't now. Look beneath the surface of the headlines. The amount of empty seats in a place like San Jose, where U2 are hugely popular (CA) supports this truth.
In my mind, ANYONE who has $700 dollars to throw away on a concert ($300 per ticket, plus fees), factor in hotel and travel expenses, food, etc is "rich." A concert with prices this high in another city hundreds of miles away would be seen as a luxury to those struggling to pay off health care expenses, support kids on rising food and gas prices, and are watching their savings slowly dwindle as a result. What do you do, go see U2 and have nothing in the bank if you health insurance decides to drop coverage of something this year? You have to anticipate things like this. I count myself luckier than most, but I also know the days of my seeing 3 shows a tour, like I did for Elevation and Vertigo, are gone. One show per tour is fine with me.
I don't know the age level of some of you folks on here. I'm in the "middle bracket" age-wise as far as fans go (a Gen-X'er), even though I've been a fan since '82.I became a fan at a VERY young age, and had to wait 10 yrs to see them live. I'm not accusing anyone of being anything. All I ask to take the time to reflect on what so many people under the age of 40 are going through. Your definition of "rich" may not be mine.
Let me repeat: We live in an economy these days where things aren't like 2008 or before. paychecks are getting squeezed, jobs are in danger, nobody knows if they'll get laid off before they can afford $300 in May. The middle class is teetering on a precipice. One unforeseen expense at the wrong time and that carefully saved U2 fund could be wiped out. Too many people today are like this, in this economy. I volunteer for my church and you would not believe the stories. It's a solid church where many folk have a bit of money, even own their own businesses like jeweler stores which have been in the family for generations, but even they are feeling the pinch. Don't believe that horse manure blared in our heads every day, which says: "the economy has recovered, the economy has "bounced back." Bullcrap. Tell that to suburbanites who take charity from the organization they used to donate to. Tell that to people whose incomes are declining, who 5 yrs ago could afford things like a Broadway play, but can't now. Look beneath the surface of the headlines. The amount of empty seats in a place like San Jose, where U2 are hugely popular (CA) supports this truth.
In my mind, ANYONE who has $700 dollars to throw away on a concert ($300 per ticket, plus fees), factor in hotel and travel expenses, food, etc is "rich." A concert with prices this high in another city hundreds of miles away would be seen as a luxury to those struggling to pay off health care expenses, support kids on rising food and gas prices, and are watching their savings slowly dwindle as a result. What do you do, go see U2 and have nothing in the bank if you health insurance decides to drop coverage of something this year? You have to anticipate things like this. I count myself luckier than most, but I also know the days of my seeing 3 shows a tour, like I did for Elevation and Vertigo, are gone. One show per tour is fine with me.
I don't know the age level of some of you folks on here. I'm in the "middle bracket" age-wise as far as fans go (a Gen-X'er), even though I've been a fan since '82.I became a fan at a VERY young age, and had to wait 10 yrs to see them live. I'm not accusing anyone of being anything. All I ask to take the time to reflect on what so many people under the age of 40 are going through. Your definition of "rich" may not be mine.
beershack
War Child
No shot that that is even remotely true. Try $400-$500. I was in college and had to pay $250 or so per ticket for 10th row at Brendan Byrne arena from a broker.
Gustavo Klein
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Isnt possible to buy tickets in presale in livenation app?
I cant find the option to buy tickets in the new dates!
I cant find the option to buy tickets in the new dates!
weinerdog
War Child
Easy now. Noon EST - 4 minutes.
gvox
Ghost of Love
NEW YORK HERE l COME
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Hewson
Blue Crack Supplier
Nice and easy this time, GA for Boston 4.
Moser
Refugee
Two GA for Chicago 3. No sweat. Instantly found tickets. Now here's hoping I can land two GA for Chicago 4 Monday.
weinerdog
War Child
So tempting...had 2 GA for Chicago 3 (my birthday), but I'm already GA for 1 and 2...so I passed.
If only I was rich
If only I was rich
_underwhelmed
The Fly
YES a pair of GA for Chicago 3 with my friend's new membership code, and a single GA for Chicago 4 with my existing pre sale code
SOOOOOO HAPPY!!!!! Looking for GA buddies and accepting suggestions on what to do in Chicago as we make a long weekend of it from Toronto
SOOOOOO HAPPY!!!!! Looking for GA buddies and accepting suggestions on what to do in Chicago as we make a long weekend of it from Toronto
Middle class?im working class mate,i wish i was middle class though.
I work hard for my cash and when i know u2 are touring i put abit aside for it.
Or like the 360 tour get in debt for it,which wasnt a great idea at the time but there isnt many things that would stop me seeing u2 live
weinerdog
War Child
YES a pair of GA for Chicago 3 with my friend's new membership code, and a single GA for Chicago 4 with my existing pre sale code
SOOOOOO HAPPY!!!!! Looking for GA buddies and accepting suggestions on what to do in Chicago as we make a long weekend of it from Toronto
Oh you are gonna have a good time. Chicago is awesome! I have a million things to recommend, but first is (if budget allows)...stay downtown. If you're flying you can take the train from either airport and then walk pretty much everywhere. I wouldn't get a rental car.
Check Trip Advisor too.
_underwhelmed
The Fly
I actually spent about 20 hours in Chicago a couple years ago because I missed my flight connecting thru O'Hare thanks to snow in Buffalo. It was just me, with only carry on luggage in January, and I went downtown and did the Hancock building tour. I was an avid viewer of ER (lol) so I've always had an interest in going and doing it right.
I think we will Airbnb it. We're a pair of 25 year old girls, hoping to stay in a neighbourhood that is cool but not so cool that is wildly unaffordable hah.
pepokiss
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
Have you heard of tickets in the original pre-sale bought with borrowed codes being cancelled?
Or is just a Credit Card/Billing Address/Names/email Ticketmaster thing?
Just a question.
Or is just a Credit Card/Billing Address/Names/email Ticketmaster thing?
Just a question.
ClaytonsKitten
ONE love, blood, life
Yeah we're far from rich. I had well over $200 in a stash but it went to legal fees this summer since we had to take our now former landlord to court. We're still paying the atty off and barely scraped the Chi2 tickets together. Transportation is coming out of tax refunds and hoarding a bit each paycheck (not easy when we live paycheck to paycheck) but for U2 we'll manage. I'm already scheming to start hoarding for 2016 once we get back from Chicago. I'd love to get lower level seats or try to do GA but we're happy to afford the $30 seats. They're the only band we go see, so to us it's worth it. Since 360 we went to only two other shows - both Brad Paisley, and both were lawn seats at local venues. (Cleveland in 2012, Pittsburgh in 2013.)
Concerts are where the industry is now relying on making money. Trouble is, no one can afford THAT, either.
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Concerts are where the industry is now relying on making money. Trouble is, no one can afford THAT, either.
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beershack
War Child
Sitting here already and wondering what shades and look i will go for at the concerts.
What should i aim at?
A shave
not heard of anything...problems seem to have been more buying too many tickets due to TM problems in the US
I realize there are exceptions to all this, but I'm just saying that on average, I think you would find that the people who purchase the $275 tickets tend to have more disposable income on average than those purchasing tickets in the $95, $65 and $35 price ranges.
So if you look at every U2 fan out there and the tickets they buy, I think you would find the fans purchasing the $275 tickets on average have higher incomes than those purchasing tickets at the lower price levels. That makes them on average, the RICH FOLK of U2 nation.
Yes, there are individual exceptions, but I'm talking about the overall averages when looking at everyone buying tickets. I don't see how you could argue that on average the fans with smaller amounts of disposable income are the ones purchasing the $275 tickets.
I know for some individual diehards that going from $95 to $275 is not a big deal, but on average for most people, it will be.
Imagine if your buying four tickets for your family. Your bill at the $275 price is going to come out to over $1,200 dollars once you add in the ticket service fee. Median House Hold income in the United States is about $50,000 dollars. So Mr. Median just spent 2.5% of his annual income to take his family to a U2 concert, if he purchased the tickets at the $275 price.
jeevey
Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid
I know people.YES a pair of GA for Chicago 3 with my friend's new membership code, and a single GA for Chicago 4 with my existing pre sale code
SOOOOOO HAPPY!!!!! Looking for GA buddies and accepting suggestions on what to do in Chicago as we make a long weekend of it from Toronto
It's settled. Only rich people like U2
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