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Old 03-03-2017, 08:55 AM   #981
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I'm sure it's perfectly ok with republicans for pence to use his personal email but God forbid Clinton uses her personal email! That's a big nono!
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Old 03-03-2017, 10:55 AM   #982
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Is there no limit to Republican hypocrisy?
To show you the depth of hypocrisy and the complete detachment from reality that afflicts many of the true believers, this is (unfortunately) a direct, unedited quote from one of my relatives, who is of the 'Hillary Clinton is pure evil and would have been the death knell for liberty and democracy,' 'George Soros is the puppetmaster behind the democratic party and its true mission of destroying individual liberty and religious freedom' and the like (emphasis mine to highlight the particularly hypocritical statements):

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Sorry you've bought all the Left talking points... You and I differ as to who has been lying to the American public - and continues to lie: the Democratic Left - for 8 years, and decades before...

You seem to be more of a leftist than you realize, and you have your liberal/leftist media to thank for steering you away from truth...and right where they want you ... and to thank for misinforming you about the depth of outrage over Obama's destructive leftist policies and his systematic implementation of his promised "fundamental transformation."

The Democratic leadership - and their propaganda arm Leftist press - purposefully steered clear of this reality for fear of endangering BHO's sacred "legacy." So, instead the Left has fabricated the complete lie of a Russian connection - because fabricating fake news seems to work with their loyal followers rather well... [ed: 1]

The leftist Democratic Party chose to totally disregard the reality that an increasing number of people were NOT happy with what BHO was doing to the nation, especially to Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Religion... discontent was growing way before Trump was ever nominated...

But because the Left was so enamored with Obama and his leftist legacy, it thought the rest of us would not mind another 4 years of the same, when in fact the rest of us only saw - the nail in the coffin for Liberty if Hillary was elected and another Leftist SC Justice was appointed.

And that is what the Left got wrong and does not understand: Religious Liberty and Freedom of speech for ALL absolutely MATTERS[ed: 2], and always will... Because the Left misunderstands how basic these freedoms are and how close we came to loosing them,ed: 3] it continues to blame everyone except the people who misled them for so long by not reporting the truth: the real concerns of the disregarded "silent majority." - and the relentless denigration of those who opposed the leftist Democratic agenda... Well your opposition decided: Silent no more! And we're not going to let the Left's lies go unchallenged - not now, not ever.

Regardless of Left's distractions aimed at taking the spotlight off their lies[ed: 4] and attempts to undermine the rights of the current legitimately elected administration, the actual fight is for Liberty - not the Left's narrow interpretation of it - and we the people know it in our bones...

Personal attacks and ridicule for our faith-based or patriotic positions have no effect. We're used to it. We know what we stand for and why... The Constitution, Rule of Law, and Liberty MATTER. Absolute Truth is knowable and MATTERS. Assuring a future free of government tyranny and oppression - for our children and grandchildren and future generations - MATTERS.[ed: 5] The fight is worth it and with faith, winnable - simply because it is not self-serving...not for the benefit of a few select groups, but is a fight for the common good.

There's no illusion on our side. The support and will is greater than all the plans of the desperate Left... Vile efforts to discredit are no match for truth. And truth WILL come out - in spite of the Leftist media's efforts to conceal...[ed: 6]
1. Barack Obama is a Muslim foreigner, Benghazi, Hillary has no stamina, pizza shop sex rings... (all things this relative has parroted, btw)

2. What about the religious freedom of Muslims? What about freedom of speech for the press? Or liberal protestors?

3. Silence while religious tests are implemented for entry into our country. Silence while the freedom of the press is directly attacked by the president. Thank God we avoided losing any of our basic freedoms!

4. Yes, the Republicans never attempt to distract anyone from their lies.

5. Muslims and dark skinned immigrants (including those previously assured safe residency in this country) might not be feeling completely free from government tyranny and oppression at the moment.

6. Woooooooow. No illusion whatsoever.

These people are, unfortunately, completely unreachable. I should also point out that this relative expressed skepticism about Trump prior to the general election, but has since fallen in line like a good Republican soldier and now brooks no challenge against our dear leader.
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That's terrifying, just imagine living in that constant state of paranoia. It's like a cult.

I have said from the beginning that there is a significant chunk of the population that is beyond reach. It is utterly pointless to try to reach them or meet them halfway, or even understand them. The only non-Hillary voters who could be of any assistance are:

1. The 1% who voted for tax cuts and are riding high on the stock market currently but will either sour when the inevitable recession rolls in or will start to worry about the stability of the economy.

2. People who voted for Trump but will be hit directly by one of his policies and will sour on him. The ACA repeal has the potential to run up the numbers here somewhat, that's if the GOP actually gets around to repealing it at all.

3. People who voted for third parties.

4. People who did not vote at all.
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When did "leftist" become a name to call people? I've only noticed it since the election. It's better than "libtard," I guess.
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I'm sure it's perfectly ok with republicans for pence to use his personal email but God forbid Clinton uses her personal email! That's a big nono!
They've all gone into fairly detailed rationalizations of how private e-mails on AOL are different than e-mails on private servers.

In the words of their Saint Ronald Reagan, if you're explaining, you're losing.
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ehh i definitely think this one is being blown up a bit bigger than it really is.

pence was a state governor who would rarely if ever have access to classified info and from what i'm reading it seems he didn't discuss any of that in his emails. whereas clinton was secretary of state who would have had access whenever she wanted it to more classified information than just about anyone else in the country.

although i still say hillary has gotten a seriously raw deal in her case, that's a substantial enough difference in my mind that i don't think the situations are comparable, certainly far from equivalent like some are proclaiming it to be.
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Pence had to use his AOL account, otherwise he wouldn't have known when he got mail. That you've got mail guy doesn't come along with just any email address.
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I'm more disturbed that the vice president of the United States is still using AOL.
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I'm more disturbed that the vice president of the United States is still using AOL.
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Pence had to use his AOL account, otherwise he wouldn't have known when he got mail. That you've got mail guy doesn't come along with just any email address.


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So, instead the Left has fabricated the complete lie of a Russian connection - because fabricating fake news seems to work with their loyal followers rather well...
...the cognitive dissonance here. It's stunning.

And why the hell are people thinking this Russia thing is some conspiracy on the left's part? Trump himself has acknowledged being friends with Putin, for cripes' sakes. It's not like we're pulling this shit out of nowhere, and it's not like Hillary Clinton is magically going to become president in place of Trump by exposing this stuff, so...what exactly do they think we'd hope to achieve here by "making this stuff up"?

And I really want these Trump supporters who keep claiming it's just the "leftists" attacking Trump to explain Dick Cheney criticizing him, or the Koch brothers. Even Bush Jr. has made comments recently that seem to be critical of Trump's behavior.

And last I checked, those guys were not exactly "leftists". So how do Trump supporters explain them? Are they just "betraying the party" or something?

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Personal attacks and ridicule for our faith-based or patriotic positions have no effect.
Oh, look, it's the "We're more patriotic and religious than the left" attitude .

Wow. I'm sorry you have to put up with that nonsense, Diemen.

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I'm more disturbed that the vice president of the United States is still using AOL.
I was thinking the same thing when I read that. I didn't realize AOL was even still a thing.
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When did "leftist" become a name to call people? I've only noticed it since the election. It's better than "libtard," I guess.
Leftists have always referred to each other as leftists, so it's a bit weird that right wingers have taken to forcing that label upon liberals. It might have to do with the rise of Sanders.
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in the UK our "Welcome to AOL", "You have email" and "Goodbye" sound clips were read by Joanna Lumley.

What was fucking annoying was when you'd suddenly lose connection and hear her say goodbye, like you were riff raff being told a fancy restaurant doesn't have a table for you.
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Carter Page is self combusting on the evening talk shows and it's glorious
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I think Donald Trump must have woken up this morning with his tin-foil hat on, judging from this Twitter rant against Obama.
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My favorite response is the guy who said "I hope your presidency ends like watergate/Nixon"
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My favorite response is the guy who said "I hope your presidency ends like watergate/Nixon"
WOW!! Can we say cookoo?? Trump has really lost it this time lol
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