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Old 02-03-2017, 07:40 AM   #281
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I don't assume I have full grasp on the experiences of others. I am a human being, sure, but I don't know what it's like to be a woman, or black, or gay, or atheist, or a refugee. I can assume, but my assumptions won't do anyone any good, so I embrace my ignorance and use it as an excuse to learn about people instead of disregarding differences altogether. No, not everyone has the same set of experiences or is equally qualified to make judgments about certain groups of people.
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Old 02-03-2017, 07:42 AM   #282
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The alternative facts queen is at it again!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nd-travel-ban/
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Old 02-03-2017, 07:50 AM   #283
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I don't assume I have full grasp on the experiences of others. I am a human being, sure, but I don't know what it's like to be a woman, or black, or gay, or atheist, or a refugee. I can assume, but my assumptions won't do anyone any good, so I embrace my ignorance and use it as an excuse to learn about people instead of disregarding differences altogether. No, not everyone has the same set of experiences or is equally qualified to make judgments about certain groups of people.


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Old 02-03-2017, 08:03 AM   #284
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So I could say the same exact thing about gun control. So you want to ban guns because there is a potential that among all the law abiding people there could be a crazy who turns the gun on innocent people. I love Europeans trying to justify gun control to Americans.....
Sure, you could say that. Only difference is that you talk about the right to your gun (in a country with the highest gun violence rate in Western society) and I talk about the right of safety for refugees.

If you can pass judgement on Merkel and the EU than I can have an opinion on US gun laws. At least I have numbers on my side that lack of US gun law is a farce, while the EU is still not the political and economic disaster you would liken it to be.
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Sure, you could say that. Only difference is that you talk about the right to your gun (in a country with the highest gun violence rate in Western society) and I talk about the right of safety for refugees.

If you can pass judgement on Merkel and the EU than I can have an opinion on US gun laws. At least I have numbers on my side that lack of US gun law is a farce, while the EU is still not the political and economic disaster you would liken it to be.
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It astounds me that people will prioritize their fixation with owning a gun over the lives of children.

Because that is the choice that is being made.

We MUST have our guns! 2 dozen dead 6-year-olds in an hour is a fair price to pay. (Plus the thousands of others.). At least be honest about your set of priorities.
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So Spicer just lied about Iran attacking a US battleship. I guess they're trying to provoke that first war before his 30 day mark.

Way to go Trumpets
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I think it's fairly obvious the Trump Admin is gearing up for a war with Iran.
How will that sit with the public after the Iraq disaster? I guess it will be framed as a war against ISIS (see Trumps Paris tweet).
Iran is also a totally different military opposition, much much stronger and there would be many more US casualties.
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Old 02-03-2017, 12:12 PM   #292
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Kellyanne Conway: Making up crap since 1967.
Even the best of us screw up when speaking extemporaneously. Remember when Obama said we had 57 states? Or when he pronounced Navy Corpsman as Corpse-Man twice in a teleprompter speech? (That was rough)

Not gonna post the videos, as long as you trust me they exist.
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The irony of this administration going after both ISIS and Iran and including them as the same issue is astounding.
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Even the best of us screw up when speaking extemporaneously. Remember when Obama said we had 57 states? Or when he pronounced Navy Corpsman as Corpse-Man twice in a teleprompter speech? (That was rough)

Not gonna post the videos, as long as you trust me they exist.
You can't possibly be this disingenuous.

Wow.
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Even the best of us screw up when speaking extemporaneously. Remember when Obama said we had 57 states? Or when he pronounced Navy Corpsman as Corpse-Man twice in a teleprompter speech? (That was rough)

Not gonna post the videos, as long as you trust me they exist.
You think this is the same?
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Even the best of us screw up when speaking extemporaneously.
Making up blatant lies?
Would you dealt want to compare Conway to the best in any area?
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Ha. Corpse-Man, is denigrating to actually Corpsman, the Navy, Veterans. You hold up Obama as the beacon of high intellect compared to the cheeto monster. One of Obama's worst moments.

If anything KAC's gaffe is drawing attention to the fact that there were those from a now restricted country that planned to do us harm.

Salome - Video doesn't lie. I can post the Obama videos if you keep calling me a liar.
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Ha. Corpse-Man, is denigrating to actually Corpsman, the Navy, Veterans. You hold up Obama as the beacon of high intellect compared to the cheeto monster. One of Obama's worst moments.

If anything KAC's gaffe is drawing attention to the fact that there were those from a now restricted country that planned to do us harm.

Salome - Video doesn't lie. I can post the Obama videos if you keep calling me a liar.
Are you fucking drunk?

Mispronouncing a word vs making up a lie

In the world of "alternative facts" I guess that's a fair comparison.
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Is it a full propaganda lie or just leaving out the word "attempted" in an interview.
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Is it a full propaganda lie or just leaving out the word "attempted" in an interview.
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Iran attacked us

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Pattern says: propaganda
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