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Old 01-31-2017, 09:25 AM   #841
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Not revoking basic rights is not Trump being "determined to protect the rights of all Americans". His team must have a hard time finding anything they can spin positively though.
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The Trump-friendly, extreme right terrorist who attacked the mosque in Canada has killed more people than all refugees admitted to the US since 1975.

https://www.ft.com/content/a8798b58-...5-9e5580d6e5fb

Also, this is what "flooded with refugees" looks like:



But, but, but they are so dangerous!!1!



This is not about security. It's about keeping people of color/non-Christians out of the country.
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Wait what the hell is this a joke

Surprisingly great news, of course.


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It's a good thing, but FADA and SCOTUS nominee are coming, so there will be lots of ways to punish the gays for existing.
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Old 01-31-2017, 09:33 AM   #844
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It's a good thing, but FADA and SCOTUS nominee are coming, so there will be lots of ways to punish the gays for existing.
End of the day this one is only replacing one conservative judge with another.

But somebody needs to put Bader-Ginsberg in a protective bubble for the next 4 years.
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It's a good thing, but FADA and SCOTUS nominee are coming, so there will be lots of ways to punish the gays for existing.
Yeah, it seems that the rumour Obama's 2014 executive order could be revoked was instigated by the Trump team to create this bit of "good news" so that we all have someting to celebrate while they will make decision after decision to the detriment of the LGBTQ community.
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But somebody needs to put Bader-Ginsberg in a protective bubble for the next 4 years.
Lord, yes.

gump, thanks for that graph. Would that we could show that to every single person who thinks this ban is a good idea until it finally sinks into their heads.
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Donald Trump being able to shape the direction of the Court for a generation is terrifying.

Steve Bannon being able to shape the Court for a generation is something that simply can not be allowed to happen at all costs.
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I know that many people wish RBG would have retired during Obama's term, and there may be some merit to that, but the Republicans weren't even willing to confirm a bland centrist like Garland, so there is no way you'd have gotten a replacement for RBG who is of the same persuasion/viewpoint.

I don't understand why they have to appoint a new SCOTUS justice? There are only 45 months until the next presidential election, we should allow the people to be heard.
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So in 10 days we've managed to piss off the parts of the Muslim world that were working with us, and also kill the 6 year old daughter of al-Awlaki

I can only see this as helpful
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I know that many people wish RBG would have retired during Obama's term, and there may be some merit to that, but the Republicans weren't even willing to confirm a bland centrist like Garland, so there is no way you'd have gotten a replacement for RBG who is of the same persuasion/viewpoint.

I don't understand why they have to appoint a new SCOTUS justice? There are only 45 months until the next presidential election, we should allow the people to be heard.
The Democrats have already said they don't want to fight Trump's first nominee because they have to fight his second nominee.

Burn down the Democratic Party and start over with leftists with conviction.
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Haha, my bad, anyways. I haven't voted for her. She hasn't been up for election since I moved here. I got confused .
Well, good news, Senator Feinstein voted against Sessions.
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End of the day this one is only replacing one conservative judge with another.

But somebody needs to put Bader-Ginsberg in a protective bubble for the next 4 years.



I sent her a vitamix shortly after the election
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I know that many people wish RBG would have retired during Obama's term, and there may be some merit to that, but the Republicans weren't even willing to confirm a bland centrist like Garland, so there is no way you'd have gotten a replacement for RBG who is of the same persuasion/viewpoint.

I don't understand why they have to appoint a new SCOTUS justice? There are only 45 months until the next presidential election, we should allow the people to be heard.



Yes, this. There's no law that says we have to have 9 justices. We once had 7.

What was important to McConnell was that the willmof the people be reflected in the new nominee, and given the 3m votes that Hillary won by, it's quite clear she was the people's choice.

This must be set aside until we can have a new election where POTUS has won the popular vote -- that's the true reflection of the will of the people, which is the standard here.
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I know that many people wish RBG would have retired during Obama's term, and there may be some merit to that, but the Republicans weren't even willing to confirm a bland centrist like Garland, so there is no way you'd have gotten a replacement for RBG who is of the same persuasion/viewpoint.
I know what you mean, but I think things might have been different replacing RBG than replacing Scalia. Replacing RBG with someone somewhat left-ish would not have fundamentally changed the makeup of the SCOTUS. However, replacing Scalia with a moderate would have. It would have left the court with four bona fide liberals, Kennedy (who has more and more sided with the liberals on things important to conservatives), Roberts (who occasionally throws a bone to the left to protect his legacy), Garland (who probably would have generally sided with the left), and only two bona fide conservatives. I think that explains why the GOP was willing to take a risky bet against confirming Garland in a way that they may not have with RBG.
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I know what you mean, but I think things might have been different replacing RBG than replacing Scalia. Replacing RBG with someone somewhat left-ish would not have fundamentally changed the makeup of the SCOTUS. However, replacing Scalia with a moderate would have. It would have left the court with four bona fide liberals, Kennedy (who has more and more sided with the liberals on things important to conservatives), Roberts (who occasionally throws a bone to the left to protect his legacy), Garland (who probably would have generally sided with the left), and only two bona fide conservatives. I think that explains why the GOP was willing to take a risky bet against confirming Garland in a way that they may not have with RBG.
and is also why they ultimately backed Trump - placing party before country.
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and is also why they ultimately backed Trump - placing party before country.
To be fair, they do believe that their party's vision is best for the country.
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To be fair, they do believe that their party's vision is best for the country.
fair enough.

i suppose they thought they could survive 4 years of his buffoonery if it got them SCOTUS

alas - they may be wrong.
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To be fair, they do believe that their party's vision is best for the country.


but many/most don't/didn't believe that Trump represented their party's vision.
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but many/most don't/didn't believe that Trump represented their party's vision.
Most of what I saw from people on the right were people upset about his vulgarity. Rarely anything to do with his policy positions.
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but many/most don't/didn't believe that Trump represented their party's vision.
I do agree with that. Defending Trump is the epitome of spinelessness.

The refusal to consider Garland, however, is more understandable if I adopt a genuine belief that a left-leaning SCOTUS is bad for the US.
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