The Bigly 2016 US Presidential Election Thread, Part XV

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Sorry, but my understanding is this going to be a landslide, and much like 2012 there's a media perpetuated "close race" because that's the interest of said media. I don't think it'll be close at all.

i believe in panic, fear, and bed wetting. we should be scared. we are literally facing an apocalypse, an extinction-level event that may actually threaten the continued existence of life on earth.

but my sneaking suspicion, my heart of hearts, says that the above is absolutely correct.

[Irvine511]

to me, this is the real tragedy of 2016, and we see it reflected in the posts of people who have no excuse not to know better:

It’s important to understand that strong institutions are what separate strong democracies from weak ones. In a strong democracy, one party can’t come into power and just lock up its opponents. It can’t turn the country’s law enforcement agencies into a partisan tool to destroy the other party. It can’t say that the courts will function only at its pleasure. We have the world’s most stable system not just because there aren’t tanks in the streets on election day, but because we have institutions that are strong enough to restrain the venality of individual men and women. And now, Republicans are not even pretending that those institutions should be impartial and transcend partisanship. They’re saying, if we can use them to destroy our opponents, we will. Something is seriously breaking down.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ld-be-immense/

i'm feeling much less charitable than last week. this particular stripe of Republican must be politically destroyed.

[BVS]

I do have a small amount of fear, by either outcome really. I fear violence if she wins, although small isolated events. But if he wins... I see a child that will flex his power as soon as he can, and results will be like a toddler playing with matches.


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[Mrs. Garrison]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk_Lasq3Bc4

[LemonMelon]

It'll be closer than I'd like, but not that close.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by BVS

I do have a small amount of fear, by either outcome really. I fear violence if she wins, although small isolated events. But if he wins... I see a child that will flex his power as soon as he can, and results will be like a toddler playing with matches.


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I dunno. I feared Obama would be attacked during his acceptance or his inauguration speech. Didn't happen. 8 years and the worst we got was people being arrested for talking about it/plotting online.

[deep]

Originally Posted by LemonMelon

It'll be closer than I'd like, but not that close.

of all the maps posted

this one is probably closer to what will occur,

there seems to be a lot of wishing going into some maps, going against what 538 is predicting and all along he has been underestimating Trump tallies

so this map most likely has 48, 49 or 50 called right,

does anyone want to put up one of the other maps against it?


edit to say, that map is not close?? that is one state, Florida
and if it is like Florida 2000, God help us all!!!

[LuckyNumber7]

I'll put my landslide up against it. Trump will probably take Georgia, that was just thrown in as a hopeful "I want to see him obliterated."

[gump]

If we are doing predictions...



Not confident about NC at all, but she could still lose it and get 274 EV. NV is so key.

[BigMacPhisto]

I think violence is far more likely if Trump is elected than the other way around. I could see the black community in inner cities going off-the-chain about it all which is kind of odd since Trump probably did more to marginalize every other community in the country other than theirs, but given the fact that virtually all of the black community will have voted for Clinton, etc. I could see there being some anger over his election. If they're going to regularly have riots when all the facts aren't in about a single police shooting of a young black man, then why not have one when some epic creep is elected President?

It's just a hypothetical, anyway, since Clinton is likely to win. There probably would have been a severe backlash on the streets if Obama had lost in 2008, I suspect.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

I dunno. I feared Obama would be attacked during his acceptance or his inauguration speech. Didn't happen. 8 years and the worst we got was people being arrested for talking about it/plotting online.

Yes, but these people have now been stewing for 8 years, being fed propaganda everyday for 8 years, and it's someone they've known and hated for decades now. This is a much bigger pressure cooker.


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[LuckyNumber7]

We are starting to look into the hypothetical of "if Hillary Clinton is murdered." Oh brother.

[deep]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

I'll put my landslide up against it. Trump will probably take Georgia, that was just thrown in as a hopeful "I want to see him obliterated."

Good its a contest
Wednesday we can run the 50 state results and have a clear winner.
In this horse race I think my horse beats yours

[BVS]

Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

I disagree. I think racial animosity runs a lot higher than political animosity towards Clinton.

As I've said before, I don't think anybody other than some crazy doing killing for the sake of killing or some other psychotic episode (see the Reagan shooting) is actually going to commit a politically motivated assassination in the United States. The sympathy for the party it happened to goes through the roof and it marginalizes the opposite side in terms of power, etc. In other words, there is absolutely nothing to be gained from doing it.

I'm not talking about assassinations, I'm talking about random violence in the streets. I agree that racial animosity is stronger but I think the 8 years of anger topped with "the bitch rigging the race against them" may be a breaking point for some.


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[gump]

That's it, I cant deal with BigMacPhisto anymore. Bye guys, enjoy the pre-election week.

[Moonlit_Angel]

Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

Hell, in this case, you'd be helping the Democrats by eliminating their extremely unlikable President. If Hillary is murdered, their odds are probably better just from the replacement candidate, be it Tim Kaine or whomever doing much better with the electorate.

You really need to stop. Seriously.

[BEAL]

Originally Posted by gump

That's it, I cant deal with BigMacPhisto anymore. Bye guys, enjoy the pre-election week.

It is pretty bad. There may be riots, but it'll be the blacks


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[BVS]

Originally Posted by BigMacPhisto

I disagree. I think racial animosity runs a lot higher than political animosity towards Clinton.

As I've said before, I don't think anybody other than some crazy doing killing for the sake of killing or some other psychotic episode (see the Reagan shooting) is actually going to commit a politically motivated assassination in the United States. The sympathy for the party it happened to goes through the roof and it marginalizes the opposite side in terms of power, etc. In other words, there is absolutely nothing to be gained from doing it.

Hell, in this case, you'd be helping the Democrats by eliminating their extremely unlikable President. If Hillary is murdered, their odds are probably better just from the replacement candidate, be it Tim Kaine or whomever doing much better with the electorate.

I guess you thought there wasn't any trolling in the first version so you had to edit it?

FFS you're a horrible human being, trolling or not.


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[Headache in a Suitcase]

Anyone wonder if the Clinton camp pushed for the FBI to send that silly statement about the emails to purposefully tighten the race because they were afraid that the base would be complacent and not turn out because they assumed a blow out?

I'll take the tin foil hat off now.

[DaveC]