LP13 Discussion - Rumor Has It: Sirens, iTunes Festival, etc.

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Nick66 said:
Wasn't there a thread once a long time ago (before my time), some guy went through every U2 record and talked about why it sucked more than the last? Every paragraph started with something like "U2 sucks". It was total snark, and was about the funniest fucking thing I've ever read on this site (not sure how I ever came across it though).

I'm just asking you Mikal b/c I think you've been around forever.
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I think so, lol. Even us cynical folks gave the crap.

That's actually what keeps me coming back to this place. It's like golf. It can suck all day and the one amazing thing happens and you're hooked. ;)


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mikal said:
I think so, lol. Even us cynical folks gave the crap.

That's actually what keeps me coming back to this place. It's like golf. It can suck all day and the one amazing thing happens and you're hooked. ;)
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Seriously, if someone knows where that thread is post a link...that thing was classic, just pure genius.
 
Found it! Classic.

I'm Disappointed In Everything U2 Has Ever Done
Mark Freedman
War Child
Premium Gold Member

I'm disappointed in Boy. I heard it was supposed to be a punk album, since U2 are fans of punk rock, but it's more of a rock and roll album, with some ballads. This band has no future. I miss the Feedback and Hype days. Bono Vox can't sing, and they should never have let The Edge's brother out of the band.

I'm disappointed in October. It's way too religious, and the lyrics suck. Just because Bono "misplaced" his lyrics doesn't mean he couldn't think up some new ones, does it? This band has no future. Boy is their best album. They are on their way down. They'll never top Boy.

I'm disappointed in War. It is WAY too political! Who do these "boys" think they are? What the hell do they know about the world? They just haven't been the same since October. And the production is so muddy! New Year's Day, my ass. Album Bloody Album. What kind of crap is Red Light? Yeah, boys, put the red light on and get out of the music business. And what -- you can't think of a more original album cover? Is thhis guy going to be on every other album cover?

I'm disappointed in The Unforgettable Fire. What are these fluffy landscapes? Do they think they're Yanni with these atmospheric tunes? Where's the rocking U2 we loved from War? Yeah, this album is "Bad". They think they're as good as Elvis Presley? With that song? That's a song? They've gotten lazy -- just slowed down the first song with Bono mumbling over it just to fill out the album. What trash. War is their best album. They'll never top War.

I'm disappointed in The Joshua Tree. This is just the UFF 2! They've lost all their originality, which I loved so much when they went from War to UFF. Just more atmospheric soundscapes. It was great the first time around, but they've obviously ran out of ideas. It will never sell. UFF is a classic. These are just retreads. And what's with this first single, With Or Without You? There's like no chorus, and it's slow and boring. It'll never be a hit, and we'll forget about it in a year. The UFF was their best album. They are on their way down. And they take themselves WAY too seriously. Oh, and anyone who likes this is a jerk, who has no taste in music. Where were these fans in the beginning, when U2 were on their way to superstardom with amazing albums from Boy through UFF?

I'm disappointed in Rattle & Hum. We had to wait two years for this crap? They had to put live stuff on it because they couldn't write enough new material? And some of this crap isn't even them! BB King? Other songs that sound like BB King? This is U2, man! Gospel singers? They just ruined I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For, one of the greatest songs from the best album ever made, The Joshua Tree. And what the hell is Angel Of Harlem? What territory are they trespassing on now? And who the hell do they think they are? As big is the greatest artists in history? They take themselves WAY too seriously. Big headed jerks. Next thing they'll say is that they're bigger than Jesus. They are definitely on their way down. They should break up now. Why isn't the live version of Streets on here??? And With Or Without You, the best single they ever had!!! This is so much worse than JT. They'll never reach those heights again.

I'm disappointed with Achtung Baby. We waited like three years of this freaking noise? Where are the beautiful atmospheric soundscapes from JT or the studio stuff from the amazing Rattle & Hum album? No one will ever again make an amazing album seamlessly mixing live and studio material without missing a beat. These songs all sound the same, and half of them are soooo boooring. They are so cruel. I was so looking forward to their first new single, and they come out with this Fly crap? A bleeping bunch of hard rock noise, which sounds like almost every other piece of crap on this mess of an album. And they're trying to be ironic? Moronic is more like it. This isn't the U2 I love. The U2 who were concerned with the problems of the world. I want the U2 back who were serious, and they sang about it from the heart. I give up on them. They dreamed it all up again, all right. A freaking nightmare. Baby, baby, baby, my ass. And One? It's a With Or Without You wanna-be -- a shell of the greatest song ever written.

I'm disappointed with Zooropa. They could have at least spent a couple of more years on this, then it wouldn't be such unrecognizable crap. I figured there would be no way they could top a masterpiece such as AB, and boy was I right! Babyface and Stay? What MOR crap. Noow they're making soundtrack music. And First Time sounds like a rehashed All I Want Is You, one of the greatest songs ever from the awesome R&H album. They don't make 'em like they used to. And what is with Wanderer? Just wander right outta here. I hate the experimental crap they have on this album also. This is their swan song. And it's so sad, since their last album was the GREATEST ALBUM EVER MADE!!!

I'm disappointed with Pop. First of all, where are the dance songs? This was supposed to be a dance album, and all we got is a single that's named after a place people go to dance! Who are they, The Village People??? And Bono can't sing anymore. I mean, like, please! I'm down on my knees! I can't even hear some of these songs without raising the volume to 12. This is NOT U2. What happened to the melodic hits of the past? Gorgeous tunes like Stay and The First Time from the adventurous and exciting Zooropa album? There's nothing atmospheric like the amazing title track from Zooropa! It's a muddy, horrible mess. Who are these guys producing this crap? This album was not finished. They are too concerned with going on tour. Nothing will ever top Zoo TV, anyway. At least Zooropa was experimental while still sounding like U2. This is too far gone, and boring. Miami, my mammy? Worst song ever made. I hope they don't dare play that pile of noise live. They now officially suck. My new favorite band is Radiohead. At least they still make accessible great music. Radiohead is what U2 used to be. An amazing band with amazing melodies, and a great future.

I'm disappointed with All That You Can't Leave Behind. What happened to the amazing experimentation of Pop??? That is a piece of art! This is MOR, AOR, whatever. Songs for my parents to listen to. This upcoming tour is going to be soooo booooring. U2 is old. Bono can't sing anymore. They are over 40. Time to call it quits. Just when you thought they were headed in another amazing direction, as they showed in Pop, they wait three years to come out with schmultz. That's it. They're through. From Boy to Pop, they were the best band ever. Now only Radiohead has enough guts to experiment. They are the new best band in the world. Goodbye U2.

I'm disappointed with How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb. What happened to the rock album we were promised? Bono said so, and he's always done what he promised. Never mind that it was a year ago. They had a rock album made a year ago, and I want THAT ALBUM!!! It was supposed to be heavy, like Boy and War, which, if I remember, are hard rock albums. They dare put in melodic pop-rock? What's with these ballads? I never liked atmospheric ballads from U2. Give me heavy, experimental rock. Love And Peace Or Else is the only good thing on it. The rest is filled with jangling guitar from The Edge, who can't play more than three chords. And Sometimes? It's a One wanna-be -- a shell of the greatest song ever written. They are old and over the hill. Where's the cutting edge? The experimentation? I loved Pop the day it came out, because it was BOLD! It was NEW! It didn't play it safe like this crap. Their return to melodic rock was done right on ATYCLB. But this is a rehash of that, done poorly. People think this is a classic? Yeah, a classic mistake! What these guys need is a miracle drug, and fast! Sellouts. U2 sounding like U2. Boy does that suck. Oh, and anyone who likes this is a jerk, who has no taste in music. Where were these fans in the beginning, when U2 were on their way to superstardom with amazing albums from Boy through ATYCLB?
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Headache in a Suitcase said:
Rick Rubin being spotted with Bono in the south of France is clearly a sign that Rubin is being brought in to finish the album(s).

That, or, ya know, rich people tend to hang out with other rich people in rich people places like the south of France.

Either one could be true.
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Rick probably just needed couch.
 
Reg McGowan said:
I've just listened to ATYCLB all the way through...

Aside from "keeping people from jumping off windows" as Adam once quoted, I wonder how a disaster such as "WILD HONEY" could make it on the album...:crack:

Anyone else thinks that Bono's voice was pretty hoarse on this album ?
I wonder if "In a Little While", "Wild Honey" and "When I Look At The World" were recorded in the same session but Bono's voice cracks when he goes for high notes...and in general.

I found his was in much better vocal form on HTDAAB and killed it. Even he pointed this out during and interview..
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Most of my utter dislike for ATYCLB in general are those songs you mentioned. And as much as I love my Adam, the "jumping off windows" thing was most of the reason behind my not liking material like Stuck or Walk On. I was going through a rough adolescence when ATYCLB was released and Bono and Co were "nails on a chalkboard" to me at that time. I had a lot of problems in my family life...
(teen years are difficult enough with adding parents getting divorced and loads of verbal/emotional abuse into the mix. But I digress...)
...and so I found solace in "bubblegum pop" like Backstreet Boys and then used bands like Green Day and Linkin Park to vent emotionally.

As an adult, I can appreciate ATYCLB for what it was to many people (and to the band), but it will never be in my top albums. Most of that IS because of the material. Songs like Wild Honey being chosen over Stateless or Levitate? C'mon, boys. You know better than that. :doh:



purpleoscar said:
A Salad?
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I kinda like Wild Honey.

(But I'm willing to attack Grace all day.)


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There's no reason that Summer Rain should have been left off the album.


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Nick66 said:
Love me that song. I lose myself in it.



Take away Wild Honey, slide in Summer Rain, and Bob's Your Uncle, record's at least 10% better.
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Exactly. Even put it in the same spot, though using the original track order that was announced a month before the album came out.

Beautiful Day
Elevation
Walk On
Stuck in a Moment
Peace on Earth
Kite
New York
In A Little While
Summer Rain
When I Look At The World
Grace


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Super Yo said:
From the deluxe edition of "HTDAAB", an extra dvd.
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Yep. We have that as well; the boy watches it more than Mr CK or I do.

I also think it may have been included in a Bomb box set; I have fuzzy memories of there being a hardback-type book with lyrics and such in various bandmember handwriting as well as things like B's handprints and band artwork. Maybe that came out after the initial release of HTDAAB? :hmm: :reject:
 
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