LuckyNumber7
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If it's directed at my earlier comment... Atifa is an Arabic women's name. And I'm half Arab. And I know people with this name. So... it does, literally, sound Arab. Aunt + Atifa... Antifa. Ok?
If it's directed at my earlier comment... Atifa is an Arabic women's name. And I'm half Arab. And I know people with this name. So... it does, literally, sound Arab. Aunt + Atifa... Antifa. Ok?
No, I was literally thinking that, if you're an idiot and predisposed to dislike leftists, it does sound like a Muslim group, likely because said idiot might get it confused with Intifada.
How big a group is antifa in the USA anyway it sounds like it's just a made up enemy for the right
So antifa is an organization that openly states that they want to bring violence to rid the world of fascists? Or they have no issue with being violent, it's their preferred method.
If this is true, then this just gives Trump and the Right more rights to bitch about how the Left doesn't support free speech, or freedom.
You get a Alt-Right rally (so KKK, Neo Nazis, etc) where they've got a permit to do their thing, and antifa shows up and starts fighting with them, wouldn't that fit in with Trumps "both sides" comment?
I am not defending Nazis, but I am defending the right to protest under the first amendment. Part of me wants these Alt-right talks to fall under hate speech. They do nothing but incite violence, and it has no place in society (within your own walls, sure). A group like antifa appears happy to comply with this violence.
antifa appears to be nothing but goons, and while I don't want or like fascism, I also don't believe in using violence to get your point across.
It's a very interesting time right now, and with the right leader a lot of this shit could be squashed. We don't have that. He's going to make the extremes on both sides become more prevalent
Somewhere in Phoenix, carpet is not being sold at rockbottom prices because this guy's at a Trump Rally.
"Our movement is a movement built on love."
"We all share the same home, the same dreams and the same hopes for a better future. A wound inflicted upon one member of our community is a wound inflicted upon us all."
But should those who use violence against Nazis still be arrested and follow the rule of law?
So I go to protest a Alt-Right rally, and I decide to just beat the fuck out of one of them. What do I accomplish other than being able to say I beat up a Nazi?
Do I accept the criminal charges that would be warranted in our society?
There's a principle called the paradox of tolerance that states that a tolerant society should be intolerant of intolerance because if intolerant people gain power than a tolerant society ceases to exist. This paradox naturally leads to the question of how far do we go in combatting intolerance. I for one, am perfectly fine with violence being used against Nazis. Nazi and white supremacist ideology explicitly advocates violence and if they gain power they will use violence against the marginalized. Better to stop them before they gain power. If violence had been used against the Nazi Party in the 1920s and early 1930s, they might not have gained power and the horrors of the Holocaust would not have happened.
There were numerous reports from Charlottesville that antifa groups were protecting protestors from the white nationalist/supremacist/Nazi thugs. Cornell West, among others, said he owed his life to them that day.
I don't trust anythign Cornell West has to say. The guy is a blowhard.
If it's true though then that's a great thing antifa did to protect people. We don't know for sure though.
I prefer my information to come from FAKE NEWS
So I go to protest a Alt-Right rally, and I decide to just beat the fuck out of one of them. What do I accomplish other than being able to say I beat up a Nazi?
Do I accept the criminal charges that would be warranted in our society?