Obama General Discussion... (Part 2)

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by 2861U2

Nobody can deny that Obama's approval rating is falling, more people respond "no" then "yes" when asked if they agree with Obama on the major issues, most people think we are not doing what it takes to win in Afghanistan, etc. And by the way, Carter was also pushing 70 at this time and Nixon was in the low-60s. That's all the "context" I need, but whatever you need to explain Obama's growing unpopularity...

you see? you said "growing unpopularity." the fact remains, the president is really very popular despite an incredibly challenging political environment. so if someone goes from 91% down to 68%, that person is certainly suffering from "growing unpopularity" despite the fact that they remain quite popular.

his approval rating is falling into line with his margin of victory over McCain, meaning, likely, that those who voted for him are happy enough with his performance.

so, there you go. more context and explanation. i hope that helps you understand the situation a bit better and you now have a clearer picture of what these numbers actually mean rather than what you wish they meant.

And where do I make Cheney the spokesman for the anti-Obama crowd? Though I won't dispute the fact that he's doing a good job of it. Cheney's approval numbers are near 40, which beats, say, the current Senate Majority Leader and the Speaker of the House.

when he left the office, Cheney was at 29%, and he had been much, much lower.

if you think that defending torture is a "good job," you're more than welcome to do so.

Cheney will go down in history right next to Joe McCarthy.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

Cheney will go down in history right next to Joe McCarthy.

Probably lower...

[MrsSpringsteen]

YouTube - President Obama Signs Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Bill Into Law

[INDY500]

I'll try and find a bigger image but rest assured, it's another "slobbering love affair" cover.

[BVS]

How come Bush never had any "slobbering love affair" covers?

[phillyfan26]

Obama's had a rough go of it, but hey, it's still better than McCain. What else were we to do?

[martha]

Originally Posted by INDY500

[another "slobbering love affair"

Don't knock it till you've tried it.

[Irvine511]

thank goodness obama has now ended the recession. 3.5% GDP growth!

is there nothing he can't do?

[martha]

Slobberer.

[Bluer White]

Mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm...

[INDY500]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

thank goodness obama has now ended the recession. 3.5% GDP growth!

is there nothing he can't do?

Well to be consistent, George W Bush should get the credit since he continues to receive the blame for all that is wrong on the planet.

But what you're saying is it's officially the president's economy, for better or worse, from now on?

[INDY500]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

Mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm...

[MrsSpringsteen]

I guess it takes a pompous windbag narcissist to know one



Limbaugh Says Obama 'In Over His Head'
A year after election, conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh says Obama 'in over his head'
By STEVEN R. HURST Associated Press Writer

Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh warned in a TV interview of unprecedented "radical leadership" in the White House and called President Barack Obama a narcissist who is "immature, inexperienced, in over his head."

Limbaugh, who regularly rails against the administration in his weekday radio program, said the health care overhaul working through Congress would become "the biggest snatch of freedom and liberty" ever seen in the United States.

In an interview taped for "Fox News Sunday" nearly a year after the presidential election, Limbaugh derided Obama's recent visit to Dover Air Force Base to observe the return of 18 service members' remains from Afghanistan. He called it a "photo op" designed to "create the impression that he has all of this great concern" while he dithers over a new strategy for the 8-year-old war.

"He really has no experience running anything. He's very young. I think he's got an out-of-this-world ego. He's very narcissistic. And he's able to focus all attention on him all the time," Limbaugh said.

Limbaugh often calls Obama a "man-child president" on his syndicated radio show. "That description is simply a way to cut through the noise and say he's immature, inexperienced, in over his head," he said in the TV interview.

In response, Obama senior adviser David Axelrod said, "It's a surreal day when you're getting lectures on humility from Rush Limbaugh," and he dismissed Limbaugh as "an entertainer."

Axelrod said he believes most Americans appreciate Obama's visit to Dover Air Force Base and called it appropriate.

"The president of the United States went to Dover to represent the American people and pay his respects to the families who had made so much of a sacrifice, to those brave service people who made the ultimate sacrifice," Axelrod said on CBS' "Face the Nation."

The White House has suggested that Limbaugh and some other far-right political personalities have grabbed control of the Republican Party. Limbaugh has openly vowed to do what he can to ensure that Obama's presidency is a failure.

His remarks on "Fox News Sunday" follow administration criticism that Fox News is the voice of the far-right wing of the Republican Party. Obama recently excluded the news network in a weekend blitz of television interviews.

Limbaugh said he is deeply worried about the administration's initiatives.

"We've never seen this kind of radical leadership at such a high level of power in the country," he said. "I believe that the economy is under siege, is being destroyed. Anybody with any economic literacy would not do one thing this administration's done to try to revitalize the private sector. They're destroying it."

Looking to the future, the radio host predicted a revolt against the Democratic Party and Obama in the 2010 midterm elections. He also said former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the GOP vice presidential nominee in 2008, was prepared to be president, but he stopped short of endorsing her as a candidate.

Limbaugh criticized Vice President Joe Biden as "pompous, a bit of a wind bag and wrong," and said a second Obama term would be painful for the nation.

"Every day you get up and there's a new potential threat to liberty and freedom being launched by this man and his administration," he said.

Axelrod said Limbaugh's remarks are hardly surprising.

"He does it every day on radio. He's marketing the outrageous. And he does very well with it," Axelrod said. "But, as I said, he's an entertainer. We've got bigger responsibilities."



WASHINGTON (CNN) – Since his brother left office in January, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush has been mostly diplomatic when discussing the Obama administration.

On Wednesday, he took a sharper tone.

During remarks to a U.S. Chamber of Commerce legal summit in Washington, Bush had tough words for the president in response to an audience question.

"I think President Obama has used the bully pulpit as a way to attack capitalism," he said, according to LegalNewsline.com.

Bush paused a moment, then acknowledged: "That'll make the news."

[Irvine511]

i wish Bush/Cheney had dithered.

they might realized there were no WMD to begin with.

[Tiger Edge]

An American hero

[MrsSpringsteen]

Does Obama have a painting of himself as a centaur in his bedroom?

If he does then ok, he IS a narcissist

[BVS]

Rush knows narcissism, problem is he's too much of a hypocrite or he's too high to recognize it every morning when he looks in the mirror.

[martha]

Or too busy counting his money.

[deep]

when they write the story of Obama

for sure they will say his failing began with Health Care

that he lacked the nerve to lead and just get it done.

One thing you can say about Bush, the minute he got in office he focused like a laser on getting that big fat tax cut for us rich folks,
no more paying down the deficit,
give the Corporations and top tier earners tax relief.

He got that done by June 2000! with no political capital, just pure force for something he believed in and a promise to his contributors.


Why the hell couldn't Obama, with his huge election mandate and poll numbers and big congress margins, just get Health Care reform through.

Bush had the courage to act on his convictions.

[HyperU2]

Republicans do the wrong things, Dems do nothing.