Beijing Olympics Thread - Part II

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So the old thread was well over 1,000 posts.

Please continue discussing swummin, Shawn Johnson, and any other Olympics related things here...

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Let's see who likes to talk the most about the Olympics:

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Looks like it's our old friends NSW and Dalton!!!
 
I woke up this morning and Chinese divers won another gold. Between them and Phelps, I'm starting to feel like I'm living through Groundhog Day.
 
Oh shut up, Martha Karolyi. You sound like a sore loser, especially with all the other experts saying this is normal.

After losing the gold medal to China Wednesday, the national team director for U.S. women's gymnastics made several charges about how officials are running the competition.
Martha Karolyi said Alicia Sacramone was made to wait too long to compete on the balance beam, causing her to lose her concentration. Sacramone fell off the beam, got a low score and pushed the U.S. farther behind the Chinese team. The U.S. finished with silver.

"It was an extremely long time," said Karolyi. "It's the little things. It's a psychological warfare."

USA Gymnastics president Steve Penny said he would not file an inquiry, adding delays are normal when there is live television. Penny said two factors impacted the delay: "They were having some keypads issues, what the judges push. The other was a broadcasters decision. It was not NBC. The Beijing Broadcasters were showing the floor live as Alicia was ready to compete on beam. They couldn't change in the middle of a live event."

Penny added "The reasons seem logical, even though we don't like them."

Mark Parkman, a spokesman for Beijing Olympic Broadcasting (BOB), which suppplies feeds to countries around the world not including what NBC does, denied TV was involved.

"It was not our decision to hold the competitor from competing," Parkman said by telephone. "Those are decisions that are made by the FIG (International Gymnastics Federation) competition official. The federations run the competition."

BOB estimates the delay was more than two minutes. FIG officials did not respond to a request for an interview.

Former gymnast Bart Conner, a 1984 Olympic gold medalist, said waiting is normal and pointed out how long Sasha Artemev had to wait on pommel horse Tuesday during the men's team competition.

"There are international judging panels on the floor," he said. "The locals are not in charge of what happens."

Regardless what caused the delay, Karolyi was suspicious. Asked if she thought the delay was intentionally done to throw off Sacramone, Karolyi said, "Well it could be."
 
Huh, so Chellsie Memmel, Bonnie Blair and Dan Jansen are all from West Allis, WI. Go, Wisconsin!

And yeah, Martha Karolyi is full of beans. The same thing happened with the men. The judging system might be wacky like that, but it wasn't done intentionally to mess with anyone.
 
Didn't get to see the men's time trial today but Cancellara, what a star he is. Gold in the time trial, came out of nowhere to cpature bronze in the road race a few days ago.....champion.
 
Oh please, Martha Karolyi! In 1992, Shannon Miller must've waited 5 minutes or so to vault, and did a perfect one. She would've won the gold medal had it not been some bias in the judging. I'm sure plenty of gymnasts are used to long waits before their routines. Alicia might've just had some bad luck, or she's just human.
 
Hey, you'd have thought the United States would have done something like this, but, it wasn't us for once:

BEIJING -- A player on Spain's Olympic basketball team defended a photo in an ad showing the players using their fingers to apparently make their eyes look more Chinese.

This photo of Spain's men's Olympic basketball team has team members defending the squad and apologizing if the photo offended anyone.

The photo, which has been running as a full-page newspaper spread in Spain since Friday, shows all 15 players making the gesture on a basketball court adorned with a Chinese dragon. The photo was part of a publicity campaign for team sponsor Seur and is being used only in Spain.

"It was something like supposed to be funny or something but never offensive in any way," Spain's Pau Gasol, center for the Los Angeles Lakers, said. "I'm sorry if anybody thought or took it the wrong way and thought that it was offensive."

"We felt it was something appropriate, and that it would be interpreted as an affectionate gesture," Spain point guard Jose Manuel Calderon, who plays for NBA's Toronto Raptors, wrote on his ElMundo.es blog. "Without a doubt, some ... press didn't see it that way."

Calderon said the team was only responding to a request from the photographer.

International media criticized the photo. London's Daily Telegraph said Spain's "poor reputation for insensitivity toward racial issues has been further harmed" by the photo.

"We're surprised by the remarks of racism," said Juan Antonio Villanueva, the communications director for Madrid's 2016 Olympic bid. "Spain is not a racist country -- quite the opposite."

Four members of Argentina's women's Olympic soccer team were shown making similar faces in a photograph published last week.

Gasol said it was "absurd" people were calling the gesture racist.

"We never intended anything like that," he said.

The Spanish basketball federation and Seur declined to comment Wednesday.

"The players explained what happened," Villanueva said. "We think that's enough."

It's not the first time Spanish sports has encountered questions over racist attitudes, and the photo comes at a time when Madrid is vying to host the Olympics.

Formula One driver Lewis Hamilton was subjected to abuse at a Barcelona circuit in February, while former Spain coach Luis Aragones also used a racist remark about France striker Thierry Henry to motivate one of his players. "Monkey" chants rained down on England's black players during an international friendly against Spain in a match played in Madrid in 2004, soon after Aragones' outburst.

The federation had just signed a four-year contract extension with Chinese clothing brand Li-Ning shortly after arriving in the Chinese capital for the Games.

"We have great respect for the Far East and its people, some of my best friends in Toronto are originally Chinese, including one of our sponsors, the brand Li-Ning," Calderon wrote. "Whoever wants to interpret it differently is completely confusing it."

World champion Spain is 2-0 at the Olympics after rallying to beat China 85-75 Tuesday while consistently getting booed.

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Karoyis' sour grapes makes bad whine

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But for Marta, the U.S. national team coordinator, and her husband Bela, the NBC commentator, this was no joke. The Chinese had figured out how to upset their gymnastics dynasty, churning out these little athletic machines, perhaps so young they couldn’t even sense the pressure of the moment.

The Karolyis couldn’t handle the results on Wednesday, a precise Chinese team, powered by three girls under suspicion for being just 14 years old, blowing out a stumbling crew of Americans. Courtesy of a 188.9-186.525 score, China took gold to the Americans’ silver.

What kills the Karolyis isn’t that the Chinese would risk the health of their children by throwing them out here before their bones and muscles mature. It’s that the Americans won’t allow the Karolyis to do it, too.

This isn’t a morality play here. In truth, no matter Marta and Bela’s bleating, no one knows how old the Chinese girls were. This was a myopic focus of the Karolyis on someone outfoxing them.

Win or lose, they have to be the center of attention – from carrying Kerri Strug around for the cameras in Atlanta, to carrying on and on here in Beijing. It feeds their machine, increases their power in USA Gymnastics and convinces another generation of parents that they alone are best to make their tumbling daughter’s dream come true.

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Even in the unlikely event everything Marta could dream up was true, even if the Americans had just been on the wrong end of this historic cheating, it was neither the time nor the place for pouting. Not after all the falls and stumbles.

Yet she kept claiming it was “a close fight.” It wasn’t.

This was all a losers’ lament, an embarrassment. The U.S. had no credibility left. The gymnasts understood that. They rightly accepted the blame for only winning silver with a team that is beyond reproach.

The Karolyis couldn’t just lose with dignity. They couldn’t accept their gymnasts’ best. They look across the way and lust over a system that might allow them to trot out a 4-foot-6, 68-pounder who bends and flips with ease. Bela coached Nadia Comaneci to seven perfect 10s in the 1976 Olympics. She was 14.

With glory like that, who would remember all the other little girls who were injured? Who would care?
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Given the allegations of abuse against the Karolyis with respect to how they treated their young girl gymnasts, they really have a lot of nerve.
 
It doesn't matter if they're injured. It's all about winning. Win, win, WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!!!
 
Man, all this gymnastics, swimming and beach volleyball coverage. Where's my media coverage of badminton? :madwife:

In all seriousness.... I wonder what sports nations outside of the US care to televise. It seems like we like to watch the ones that we're good at and/or are quick.
 
I'm not squeamish but that video is pretty bad. Yikes.
 
It seems like we like to watch the ones that we're good at and/or are quick.

Ok, watching the ones we're good at leaves us out of almost everything so that's not why we watch anything. We are the best mediocre Olympic country ever.

We get a steady diet of swimming, diving, gymnastics, beach volleyball, softball, baseball, basketball, tennis, women's soccer, rowing and kayaking,cycling and boxing with is just a ridiculous now as it has always been, with highlights from fencing, weightlifting, field hockey and other events in which Canadians participate. Sailing is always on another CBC affiliate which I don't get which is ok cause sailing is something I don't get.
 
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