Mandatory Health Insurance part 3

[Steved1998]

No but we do need an interference bingo card

[LemonMelon]

Originally Posted by Diemen

Is someone out deep-ing deep?

We really don't need two of them.

I can think of about a dozen countries I would rather contract an acute or chronic illness in than the United States. Hardly saying this bill is air-tight, but we don't need our own healthcare system knocking us down once we get back on our feet.

[deep]

Originally Posted by Steved1998

Exactly! Healthcare is a personal choice. If you have no insurance your family should step in and take care of you. Why should you burden society? If your family is poor? Oh well maybe they should have made better career choices!

I would not call it a choice, and I do lean towards a single payer program

but I don't have a lot of sympathy for paying for people's obesity related health issues, I think people should be more accountable for their choices, I know we won't leave them dying in the streets.

[Steved1998]

Originally Posted by deep

that is a valid point gasoline taxes pay for most highways, so we all pay and use

I pay for public education, I have no children, but don't mind it is for the common good. I don't want to pay for everybodies higher education, and beer pong, vape leaning experiences.

Exactly, which is why people who ride bikes have NO RIGHT to be on the road. They're not paying for gas, so they shouldn't ride on the roads.

I don't have kids either. I definitely don't think we should support education, especially if the kids are learning how to play 'beer pong' in school. And you know what? It's because the over paid union teachers. Jesus, it's a wonder the red Chinese are surpassing us. Honest Abe Lincoln, the greatest man of his generation, taught himself how to read and write without public funding. It's time we go back to that model.

[Steved1998]

Originally Posted by LemonMelon

We really don't need two of them.

I can think of about a dozen countries I would rather contract an acute or chronic illness in than the United States.

We have the greatest system in the world, if you have a good job. Saying anything else is tantamount to treason.

[deep]

Originally Posted by Diemen

Is someone out deep-ing deep?

really ?

is that necessary

[Steved1998]

Originally Posted by deep

I would not call it a choice, and I do lean towards a single payer program

but I don't have a lot of sympathy for paying for people's obesity related health issues, I think people should be more accountable for their choices, I know we won't leave them dying in the streets.

Maybe we should. Then they wouldn't be so fat. If they don't like it, go be fat in Canada

[LemonMelon]

Originally Posted by Steved1998

I don't have kids either. I definitely don't think we should support education, especially if the kids are learning how to play 'beer pong' in school. And you know what? It's because the over paid union teachers.

Yeah, now I think Steve's kidding.

[corianderstem]

We see you trollin', we hatin'.

[deep]

I pay highway taxes for streets to drive on
not for a place for size XXX to lounge

[Steved1998]

Originally Posted by deep

I pay highway taxes for streets to drive on
not for a place for size XXX to lounge

And if they had a good job that provided health insurance then they wouldn't need to lounge on the street. Because they're fat and most likely dying of a heart attack.

It's about personal responsibility and this bill takes it all away.

[Danny Boy]

Originally Posted by Steved1998

And if they had a good job that provided health insurance then they wouldn't need to lounge on the street. Because they're fat and most likely dying of a heart attack.

But that's exactly what we want. Someone who pays into the system and then dies quickly. Need to make sure they have a DNR in place for maximum net profit.

[Steved1998]

Originally Posted by Danny Boy

But that's exactly what we want. Someone who pays into the system and then dies quickly. Need to make sure they have a DNR in place for maximum net profit.

Hence the need for government bureaucrats that sit on panels that determine whether you will get coverage or not. If you don't survive? Blame Darwinism.

[PhilsFan]

Originally Posted by deep

really ?

is that necessary

You bet your ass it is!

Seriously, though, you don't have to stick to the script all the time. Moments of self-awareness are encouraged.

[Jive Turkey]

[Moonlit_Angel]

My thoughts exactly, JT.

*Looks at location* Swear to god, that gets more and more accurate with each passing day.

[cobl04]

Is that Gotye?

[Canadiens1131]

Better Gotye than Goatse.

[Popmartijn]

Originally Posted by Steved1998

Exactly! Healthcare is a personal choice. If you have no insurance your family should step in and take care of you. Why should you burden society? If your family is poor? Oh well maybe they should have made better career choices!

Thus if you have no insurance you're not allowed to go to a doctor (or a hospital), but your family should have the necessary medical knowledge. I can go with that, it lessens the financial risk/burden on the insurance companies.

Then again, levying a tax on those who don't have insurance (even with all the possibilities of employer-paid health insurance, government subsidies for those with lower incomes, etc.) ensures that people are insured and can thus make use of hospitals, medicines, etc. Sounds also good.

[MrsSpringsteen]

Originally Posted by deep

I would not call it a choice, and I do lean towards a single payer program

but I don't have a lot of sympathy for paying for people's obesity related health issues, I think people should be more accountable for their choices, I know we won't leave them dying in the streets.

If you're serious, and even if you're not-because at this point it's kinda sad

Type 1 diabetes is primarily genetic, not obesity related. My brother has it too, and IT'S NOT HIS FAULT. Unlike type 2 you can't go off meds or lose weight to "make it better". You don't produce insulin so you'll need to inject it or pump it or you'll DIE. That's really disgusting and lacking in empathy. It was a genetic roulette, could just have easily been me and still could be. But don't worry, I walk every day and I'm not obese and I avoid sugar. I can't get my weight where I'd prefer it to be but I can't get in a time machine and make myself 25 either. A million apologies to my fellow taxpayers.

Anyone who thinks that illness and disease is completely under their control is delusional. To the point of needing professional help. Genetics, accidents, and random circumstance will f with you every time.

I just honestly can't believe the attitudes of some people.

Liberty is freaking flag waving alive and well in Massachusetts, in spite of our socialist health care system and our gay marriage. It's a miracle, I tell ya.