New U2 Album Discussion (alt title: Lose Your Will To Live Here)

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Drunken McGuinness eats poisoned 20-foot long sandwich, on lifesaving surgery - Edge, Adam "Maybe ... We'll see"
 
U2 will be completely forgotten by October 2013, like Blue-Oyster-Cult-forgotten, if they don't release something before then.

That would probably be the best thing for them. To be able to create in obscurity without the pressure to be the "biggest band in the world." That would never happen though.

I wish they would discover their irish roots before they disband, and make a few earthier albums with traditional irish instruments and all that.

But if they don't release the DM stuff...there's no hiding it, there's a rift in the band that may be too deep at this point to overcome. This isn't the band that could risk putting out a AB or a Zooropa anymore :(
 
But if they don't release the DM stuff...there's no hiding it, there's a rift in the band that may be too deep at this point to overcome.

I seriously doubt that. I'm sure there's plenty of little disagreements and whatever on the details as they go along, but I think when it comes to the big picture they're probably all on the same page these days. There's no evidence of a division, even in a superficial 'attitude' way (compared to, say, the 90s and the perceived Conservative Larry vs Creative Bono thing.) Who wouldn't be happy with anything now? They're all pretty interchangeable, it seems.

Mind you, IF it turns out to be Spider-man that kills the May album, Larry and Adam may of course be none too pleased with that, and 99.9% of the fanbase will very quickly do arms deals with that side of the civil war. But I doubt that will be the case, or end up being the reason if the album has been canned. Spider-man really hit the shits after the album should have been done.

This isn't the band that could risk putting out a AB or a Zooropa anymore :(

Definitely could, but almost certainly wouldn't.
 
"Everything You Know Is Wrong"
"Expect Nothing"

How prophetic do those words seem now? It's like they were sending us a message 20 years in advance.
 
from a recent Jacknife Lee interview.. on producing REM and u2.. interesting insight..

So is it a truism that the more successful a band becomes, the more secure they are in its collective skin? Surprisingly, the answer is no.

"They all seem to go through over-confidence at the start, lose their way in the middle, try to remember what they were good at, get past that, and then begin freaking out about whether they’ve reached a peak and are now on the way down. Bands fight at different stages, and it really is about fighting for why you’re doing something."
 
That would probably be the best thing for them. To be able to create in obscurity without the pressure to be the "biggest band in the world." That would never happen though.

I wish they would discover their irish roots before they disband, and make a few earthier albums with traditional irish instruments and all that.

But if they don't release the DM stuff...there's no hiding it, there's a rift in the band that may be too deep at this point to overcome. This isn't the band that could risk putting out a AB or a Zooropa anymore :(

I was thinking the same thing about the. "Irish roots" the other day. Wondering how that would sound.
On the rift thing. I don't it's like that. Remember they stated they rather give up u2 than sacrifice their friendships'.
At this point riskier albums is not the thing for them to do. Great albums with solid songs is where they're future lies. Not that the work they're producing isn't good, but they can do better. They are the greatest band in the world.
 
This isn't the band that could risk putting out a AB or a Zooropa anymore :(

This seems a bit harsh to me.

When HTDAAB was released, I recall an interview where Edge's daughter stated it sounded like nothing on the radio. And she was right. Yet, "Vertigo" became a hit (thanks to a ubiquitous commercial) and the album and tour did well. However, HTDAAB was hardly an album that blended in with what was on radio at the time.

Then came NLOTH. "Crazy Tonight" is arguably the most commercial sounding soft rock song on the album. So what does U2 do in concert? They perform a wild remix of the song! I don't know of any other group that performs the "dance" remixed version of their song. Yes, some may do an acoustic version, and some may speed up or slow down the song, but rare is the band that essentially abandons the single and album version for a remix.

The rest of NLOTH has songs that once again stood out from the marketplace. Perhaps GOYB was another attempt at "Vertigo", but songs like the title track, "Moment of Surrender", "Breathe" and almost the entire second half of the CD are hardly "safe".

Furthermore, let's go back to U2's past. "Pride" is a very catchy song, regardless of the rather powerful lyrics. WOWY is a slow love song which always leap to the top of the charts. The same is true about "One". MW is another very catch song, as was "Desire". To argue that U2 only care about the hits now is turning a blind eye toward their past.

I remain wildly impressed with NLOTH and am glad U2 did "take a chance". They had some hints of ATYCLB and HTDAAB on the album - we can call those transition tracks. But much of the album sounded fresh, new, invigorated and suggested a new approach.

Drunken McGuinness Leaks

*snort :lol: :up: :wink:
 
Thanks doctorwho!

The one thing I'm sure of about U2 is that they haven't faked it. Their biggest problem right now seems to be being too desperate for a hit. I think honesty is what they should strive for....
 
I know he is a gobshite,but I just heard an interview with beady eye on radio 2. And liam says he couldn't imagine bringing an album out every 4 to 5 years,fuck that he says! U2 take note!
 
On the rift thing. I don't it's like that. Remember they stated they rather give up u2 than sacrifice their friendships'.

They did have a rift with AB and Atomic Bomb when the rhythm section said "no".

I think NLOTH's lack of singles aside, it was massively overhyped as "Achtung Baby 2.0" reinvention, mostly by Daniel Lanois. While it's definitely somewhat different (mostly due to the lyrics) from the other two records in this decade, most of it would still sit along very comfortably in this era. Save for MOS, White as snow and maybe SUC, for all its trying (mostly on Bono's part) it is still a 00's U2 record. And maybe the audience was tired of Magnificent/Boots/Crazy type of songs. And it looks like U2 got the message, and promptly switched producers. Eno and Lanois just didn't deliver this time.
 
They did have a rift with AB and Atomic Bomb when the rhythm section said "no".

I think NLOTH's lack of singles aside, it was massively overhyped as "Achtung Baby 2.0" reinvention, mostly by Daniel Lanois. While it's definitely somewhat different (mostly due to the lyrics) from the other two records in this decade, most of it would still sit along very comfortably in this era. Save for MOS, White as snow and maybe SUC, for all its trying (mostly on Bono's part) it is still a 00's U2 record. And maybe the audience was tired of Magnificent/Boots/Crazy type of songs. And it looks like U2 got the message, and promptly switched producers. Eno and Lanois just didn't deliver this time.

All correct,but i think No Line,unknown caller and breathe are the best this decade. And of course moment of surrender is just class aswell.
 
drunken mcguiness says the u2 record won't come out until he destroys the internet. Edge and adam say "maybe...we'll see. He really likes porn"
 
lol! at least when the album doesn't come out this spring, we can all take a nice break for a couple years and come back then.
 
lol! at least when the album doesn't come out this spring, we can all take a nice break for a couple years and come back then.

Oh no, this level of disinformation may only be a preview of the level of disinformation to come after 360 ends, with correspondingly higher levels of absurdity in WTAHNN.
 
Why do I check this topic every day?

...multiple times?
I feel your pain. The worst part is, every time I go over here and see that the thread has new posts, I think "Maybe they announced a new album!" My rational brain knows that, if they had, I probably would have heard about it already, but try telling that to my subconscious. So, of course, I click on the thread, only to have my hopes dashed by five pages of nothing.

This happens every morning.

Yes, I am bitter.

:wink:

Oh no, this level of disinformation may only be a preview of the level of disinformation to come after 360 ends, with correspondingly higher levels of absurdity in WTAHNN.
What? But...how? Is that even possible?

If that happens, I think I'll hide over in Lemonade Stand. For two or three years. Yeah.
 
Here's what will happen. There will be no announcement of any sort about the album between now and the South American shows. Then in an interview for these shows one of the band members will mention they are working on new music but won't have a clear answer as to when it's coming out, saying "Perhaps by the end of the year", which everyone on here will immediately recognise as bullshit because they won't have much time to work on an album due to touring commitments. After a wave of angry and frustrated outbursts everyone will resign themselves to the fact that we are at least 18 months away from the next U2 album.
 
They did have a rift with AB and Atomic Bomb when the rhythm section said "no"..

how's this relate to what i said?

I think NLOTH's lack of singles aside, it was massively overhyped as "Achtung Baby 2.0" reinvention, mostly by Daniel Lanois. While it's definitely somewhat different (mostly due to the lyrics) from the other two records in this decade, most of it would still sit along very comfortably in this era. Save for MOS, White as snow and maybe SUC, for all its trying (mostly on Bono's part) it is still a 00's U2 record. And maybe the audience was tired of Magnificent/Boots/Crazy type of songs. And it looks like U2 got the message, and promptly switched producers. Eno and Lanois just didn't deliver this time.

agreed on all counts.
 
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