NLOTH Singles Chart Watch

[ic170]

I'm completely lost regarding singles charts as there seems to be many different ones, it's going over my head!

Can somebody please tell me how crazy tonight is doing in the OFFICIAL UK SINGLES CHART? Not itunes, not airplay, nothing like that, but official uk singles chart. Wanna know if it beats Magnificent's position of 42.

as they used to say on R1 "the only chart that counts..."

BBC - Radio 1 - Chart Show - The UK Top 40 Singles

and for the USA...
Billboard Hot 100 Music Charts -Most Trusted Music Charts in the Industry

however wait a week as it's out this week in the UK

 

[Irishteen]

I'm completely lost regarding singles charts as there seems to be many different ones, it's going over my head!

Can somebody please tell me how crazy tonight is doing in the OFFICIAL UK SINGLES CHART? Not itunes, not airplay, nothing like that, but official uk singles chart. Wanna know if it beats Magnificent's position of 42.

It peaked at 100, and has fallen since then

Itunes is probably 50% of total sales so where it is on itunes is pretty much a good indication of how it will do overall

 

[KUEFC09U2]

I cannot belive that once again, the single was released today and no promo for it at all,

 

[Tallarico]

the Ep is going well on itunes.
Apple - iTunes - iTunes Store - Charts - Top 10 Rock Albums

 

[bram]

Well if nothing else, at least people can no longer whine about U2's music being ubiquitous and the band selling out to be popular, etc etc. If CT somehow becomes a big hit, it will be completely out of the band's/company's hands.

 

[ic170]

...indeed, amazing what a seismic shift we've seen in the UK chart..

from this;

Vertigo #1
Sometimes You can't Make It On Your Own #1
City Of Blinding Lights #2
All Because Of You #4
The Saints Are Coming #2
Window In The Skies #4

to this...
Get On Your Boots #12
Magnificent #42
I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight #?

 

[CosmoKramer]

...indeed, amazing what a seismic shift we've seen in the UK chart..

from this;

Vertigo #1
Sometimes You can't Make It On Your Own #1
City Of Blinding Lights #2
All Because Of You #4
The Saints Are Coming #2
Window In The Skies #4

to this...
Get On Your Boots #12
Magnificent #42
I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight #?

If I am not mistaken, the UK singles chart uses different criteria than it did in 2004. Im not sure what the change was but it might have to do with digital downloads (I might be wrong). Either way, it is a massive change that is very disappointing.

 

[Irishteen]

If I am not mistaken, the UK singles chart uses different criteria than it did in 2004. Im not sure what the change was but it might have to do with digital downloads (I might be wrong). Either way, it is a massive change that is very disappointing.

It includes Digital Downloads but come on it's still sales if you can sell physicals you should be able to sell downloads no problem

 

[fedeu2]

It includes Digital Downloads but come on it's still sales if you can sell physicals you should be able to sell downloads no problem

We have gone thru this discussion a lot of times. It´s not the same to sell phyicals than downloads. The accurate comparison would be the chart place the singles from NLOTH have attained considering the physical market ONLY.
I would be very surprised if those positions are not virtually the same as those obtanied by HTDAAB singles.

 

[bathiu]

It includes Digital Downloads but come on it's still sales if you can sell physicals you should be able to sell downloads no problem

not if your music is not suitable for ringtones,
ringtones every hip kid in school must have,
the only question is what kind of group you're in, pop? Lady Gaga, rock? KOL, etc.
Outside of U2 fans, did you ever hear a U2 ringtone?

 

[Irishteen]

We have gone thru this discussion a lot of times. It´s not the same to sell phyicals than downloads. The accurate comparison would be the chart place the singles from NLOTH have attained considering the physical market ONLY.
I would be very surprised if those positions are not virtually the same as those obtanied by HTDAAB singles.

That's not an accurate comparison at all, because a lot of artists no longer sell physicals therefore easier to chart higher if you do

Physical to digital is the same as vinyl to cd. If your singles flop with downloads they're a flop no matter how the cd sells

not if your music is not suitable for ringtones,
ringtones every hip kid in school must have,
the only question is what kind of group you're in, pop? Lady Gaga, rock? KOL, etc.
Outside of U2 fans, did you ever hear a U2 ringtone?

I don't see how this matters, most digital downloads have nothing to do with ringtones, they're just how people buy music. No one buys U2 singles, hence they flop. It's not ringtones or anything, it's a lack of demand

 

[Irishteen]

And Crazy has entered the UK chart at 32, expect a huge drop next week

 

[Danny Boy]

Well, at least it's in the chart and the streak of singles to miss Top 40 ends at 1.

 

[Native_Son]

Vertigo was #1 on downloads for months, maybe the demographic of people donwloading has changed over the last few years, or U2 arent as popular anymore, or NLOTH singles arent as good / good enough. still at least crazy made top 40!

 

[nielsgov]

Good to see that Crazy made the top 40! Hoping it can stay there.

 

[beLIEve]

Been a while since updates from me...

Crazy Tonight in the U.S.
After stalling and falling on 3 of 4 charts in the last week+, Crazy has resumed it's rise on the U.S. charts. These updates are as of TODAY:

Alternative:

Peak lw TW Artist Title Label TW lw Move Stations On TW lw +/-
21 24 28 CAVO Champagne Reprise 2008 465 537 -72 30 12.9 14.9 -2.0
29 29 29 OWL CITY Fireflies Universal Republic 2009 435 414 21 30 12.1 11.5 +0.6
30 31 30 U2 I'll Go Crazy If I D... Interscope 2009 429 391 38 39 11.0 10.0 +1.0
27 28 31 PHOENIX 1901 Loyaute/Glassnote/RED 2009 425 434 -9 37 10.9 11.1 -0.2

Adult Rock/Triple A:

Peak lw TW Artist Title Label TW lw Move Stations On TW lw +/-
1 1 1 DAVID GRAY Fugitive Mercer Street/Downtown 2009 591 587 4 30 19.7 19.6 +0.1
2 2 2 DAVE MATTHEWS BAND Why I Am RCA/RMG 2009 500 491 9 28 17.9 17.5 +0.3
4 4 3 U2 I'll Go Crazy If I D... Interscope 2009 491 457 34 29 16.4 15.2 +1.1
6 6 4 INGRID MICHAELSON Maybe Cabin 24 2009 442 442 0 25 17.7 17.7 0.0
7 7 5 PEARL JAM The Fixer Monkeywrench 2009 418 427 -9 27 15.5 15.8 -0.3
1 3 6 KINGS OF LEON Use Somebody RCA/RMG 2008 416 461 -45 28 14.3 15.9 -1.6
1 5 7 WILCO You Never Know Warner Bros. 2009 408 443 -35 27 15.1 16.4 -1.3
3 8 8 GREEN DAY 21 Guns Reprise 2009 353 397 -44 23 14.7 16.5 -1.8
2 9 9 COLDPLAY Life In Technicolor ... Capitol 2008 348 394 -46 26 13.4 15.2 -1.8

Adult Top 40/Mainstream:

Peak lw TW Artist Title Label TW lw Move Stations On TW lw +/-
21 23 23 LINKIN PARK New Divide Warner Bros. 2009 746 712 34 55 12.9 12.3 +0.6
27 27 24 TRAIN Hey, Soul Sister Columbia 2009 640 533 107 37 16.4 13.7 +2.7
24 24 25 COBRA STARSHIP Good Girls Go... Atlantic 2009 637 623 14 47 13.0 12.7 +0.3
26 26 26 U2 I'll Go Crazy If I D... Interscope 2009 580 560 20 49 11.6 11.2 +0.4
23 25 27 KATE VOEGELE 99 Interscope 2009 546 583 -37 48 10.9 11.7 -0.7
28 28 28 HOWIE DAY Be There Epic 2009 535 506 29 42 12.4 11.8 +0.7
24 29 29 BLACK EYED PEAS Boom Bo... Interscope 2009 441 486 -45 26 17.0 18.7 -1.7
30 30 30 ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS I Wa...Interscope 2008 440 413 27 34 12.6 11.8 +0.8
34 34 31 MILEY CYRUS Party In The USA Hollywood 2009 419 322 97 26 15.5 11.9 +3.6

Mainstream Rock:

Peak lw TW Artist Title Label TW lw Move Stations On TW lw +/-
20 25 25 KINGS OF LEON Use Somebody RCA/RMG 2008 51 50 1 6 8.5 8.3 +0.2
23 24 26 VEER UNION Seasons Universal Motown 2009 49 52 -3 10 4.9 5.2 -0.3
27 27 27 U2 I'll Go Crazy If I D... Interscope 2009 45 41 4 6 7.5 6.8 +0.7
21 29 28 MUDVAYNE Scarlet Letters Epic 2008 38 36 2 3 12.7 12.0 +0.7
28 28 29 SHINEDOWN If You Only Knew Atlantic 2008 38 38 0 5 7.6 7.6 0.0
32 33 30 MUSE Uprising Warner Bros. 2009 37 23 14 1 18.5 11.5 +7.0

Top 100 Hits Online:
tw lw 2 wks ago weeks on chart song artist
57 43 31 24 Boom Boom Pow, The Black Eyed Peas (#1 for 5 weeks)
58 66 74 3 I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight, U2
59 75 69 5 Down, Jay Sean f/ Lil Wayne
60 79 73 11 Closer To Love, Mat Kearney
61 65 65 4 Get Shaky, Ian Carey Project
62 74 97 3 Jump, Flo Rida f/ Nelly Furtado
...and...
74 78 63 23 Magnificent, U2

Elsewhere for NLOTH singles...

MTV Asia Hitlist (The MTV Asia HitList Top 20 Chart is compiled from record sales & radio airplay around South East Asia)

This Week Last Week Peak Pos Weeks On Title Artist Label
1 6 1 5 Love Drunk Boys Like Girls Sony Music
2 1 1 10 I Gotta Feeling Black Eyed Peas Universal
3 2 2 6 Good Girls Go Bad Cobra Starship Feat Leighton Meester Warner
4 3 3 8 Fire Burning Sean Kingston Sony Music
5 8 5 7 Fxxk You Lily Allen EMI
6 4 2 9 Paparazzi Lady Gaga Universal
7 11 7 5 You Belong With Me Taylor Swift Universal
8 5 5 9 21 Guns Green Day Warner
9 12 9 4 Obsessed Mariah Carey Universal
10 7 7 8 Battlefield Jordin Sparks Sony Music
11 15 11 3 We Are Golden Mika Universal
12 16 12 3 Ignorance Paramore Warner
13 9 1 12 Mama Do (Uh Oh Uh Oh) Pixie Lott Universal
14 17 14 4 Radar Britney Spears Sony Music
15 19 15 2 Run This Town Jay-Z feat Rihanna & Kanye West Warner
16 - 16 - She Wolf Shakira Sony Music
17 20 17 2 Remedy Little Boots Warner
18 18 5 10 Bulletproof La Roux Universal
19 - 19 - Here We Go Again Demi Lovato Universal
20 - 20 - I'll Go Crazy If I Don't Go Crazy Tonight U2 Universal

France Top 100 Singles (chart is based on singles sales of France)

tw lw total weeks Artist Song
35 31 11 Flo Rida Feat. Wynter - Sugar
36 35 11 Ciara Feat. Justin Timberlake - Love Sex Magic
37 34 10 Milow - Ayo Technology
38 37 22 James Morrison Feat. Nelly Furtado - Broken Strings
39 33 17 U2 - Magnificent
...and...
92 86 45 Guru Josh Project - Infinity 2008
93 85 28 U2 - Get On Your Boots
94 71 23 Paramore - Decode

Billboard's all-inclusive "Rock" chart (Alternative, Mainstream, Adult, & Active Rock):

Crazy Tonight up to #26

More later this week...

 

[Tallarico]

In Uk radio airplay Crazy up at 15 from 30!

 

[beLIEve]

MTV Asia Hitlist (The MTV Asia HitList Top 20 Chart is compiled from record sales & radio airplay around South East Asia)

Crazy up from 20 to 19 in it's 2nd week on the Asia Chart

In the U.S., Crazy is now playing on 50 on the monitored Adult Top 40 stations, which eclipses Magnificent and GOYB. It also debut on Billboard's Mainstream Adult Top 40 chart last week (the print edition only shows the Top 25) at #24. It's safe to say that Crazy is U2's most successful single off of NLOTH. While it may not reach #1 on Alternative or make the United World Chart, GYOB did that basically because it was the first single from U2, and it fell FAST in most places (but it's strangely been in France's Hot 100 chart since it was released).

On Alternative Radio, Crazy is now on 42 stations, which also eclipses Magnificent and it's still rising. As it is on Triple A and Rock.

I guess I'm saying it's U2's biggest hit off of NLOTH, here in the U.S., based on it's longevity and the total number of formats it's charting on right now. As for Asia, GYOB and Magnificent made it well into the MTV "all-inclusive" Top 20 chart, so not sure if Crazy is going to be U2's biggest single from NLOTH in that part of the world or not...guess we'll see. If they tour in Asia and release a 4th single to coincide, then who knows.

I'm also guessing that with the tour in the U.S., the SNL appearance, the video doing well...that Crazy still has room to rise here in the States. It is being played on well over 125 monitored radio stations right now, and does seem to be like the type of song that could cross over into Pop Mainstream. Blackberry Ad perhaps could have been delayed a bit in the U.S., as I haven't seen it lately, but who knows.

 

[beLIEve]

In Italy, Crazy Tonight is up to #32 in it's 4th week on the chart. Magnificent is down to #98 in it's 27th week on their Top 100 chart, where it peaked at #7. Not sure Crazy will eclipse Magnificent there, where the 2nd single has to be considered a genuine "hit song".

Il blog di Chartitalia: Hit Parade Brani 2009/ Top 100 n.36 del 12 Settembre

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

MTV Asia Hitlist (The MTV Asia HitList Top 20 Chart is compiled from record sales & radio airplay around South East Asia)

Crazy up from 20 to 19 in it's 2nd week on the Asia Chart

In the U.S., Crazy is now playing on 50 on the monitored Adult Top 40 stations, which eclipses Magnificent and GOYB. It also debut on Billboard's Mainstream Adult Top 40 chart last week (the print edition only shows the Top 25) at #24. It's safe to say that Crazy is U2's most successful single off of NLOTH. While it may not reach #1 on Alternative or make the United World Chart, GYOB did that basically because it was the first single from U2, and it fell FAST in most places (but it's strangely been in France's Hot 100 chart since it was released).

On Alternative Radio, Crazy is now on 42 stations, which also eclipses Magnificent and it's still rising. As it is on Triple A and Rock.

I guess I'm saying it's U2's biggest hit off of NLOTH, here in the U.S., based on it's longevity and the total number of formats it's charting on right now. As for Asia, GYOB and Magnificent made it well into the MTV "all-inclusive" Top 20 chart, so not sure if Crazy is going to be U2's biggest single from NLOTH in that part of the world or not...guess we'll see. If they tour in Asia and release a 4th single to coincide, then who knows.

I'm also guessing that with the tour in the U.S., the SNL appearance, the video doing well...that Crazy still has room to rise here in the States. It is being played on well over 125 monitored radio stations right now, and does seem to be like the type of song that could cross over into Pop Mainstream. Blackberry Ad perhaps could have been delayed a bit in the U.S., as I haven't seen it lately, but who knows.

The real question is, can it crack the HOT 100 AIRPLAY ONLY CHART? That would be a real sign of success. Every U2 album since the Unforgettable Fire has had one song that made it onto that chart.

 

[beLIEve]

Other updates...

In the Netherlands, Crazy Tonight debuts at #14 on the Top 100 Singles Chart (9/12/09). On the Top 50 downloads chart, it debuted at #33.

In Belgium (Wallonia) Top 40 singles chart (9/12/09), Magnificent re-enters the chart at #39.

In Switzerland's Top 100 Singles chart (9/20/09), Crazy Tonight debuts at #60 and Magnificent re-enters the chart at #98.

In Spain's Top 50 Singles Chart dated 9/13/09, Crazy Tonight is show as re-entering the chart at #32.

At this point, the more charts I look up, the more it looks like it will be later this week, or perhaps next week, before most country's have singles charts available that would include a full week of Crazy Tonight's release. I'll have an update once that information is more widely available.

 

[beLIEve]

The real question is, can it crack the HOT 100 AIRPLAY ONLY CHART? That would be a real sign of success. Every U2 album since the Unforgettable Fire has had one song that made it onto that chart.

I still get the print edition from an expired online subscription, and so far, have not seen any U2 single from NLOTH on the Hot 100 Airplay chart...but you can only see the Top 75 or Top 50, depending on the week, in the print edition. Perhaps someone here has an online subscription? I'm not sure where else it might be published.

If I remember correctly, both GOYB and Magnificent briefly cracked the BB Hot 100, but that was on the strength of downloads around the release of NLOTH, not airplay.

Anyway, I agree, it would be nice to see at least one single from NLOTH have a run on the BB Hot 100 Airplay Chart...or at this point, The Hot 100 Chart, period, as it would be on the strength of airplay, as downloading songs from NLOTH would not make much of a difference IMHO.

 

[Maoilbheannacht]

I still get the print edition from an expired online subscription, and so far, have not seen any U2 single from NLOTH on the Hot 100 Airplay chart...but you can only see the Top 75 or Top 50, depending on the week, in the print edition. Perhaps someone here has an online subscription? I'm not sure where else it might be published.

If I remember correctly, both GOYB and Magnificent briefly cracked the BB Hot 100, but that was on the strength of downloads around the release of NLOTH, not airplay.

Anyway, I agree, it would be nice to see at least one single from NLOTH have a run on the BB Hot 100 Airplay Chart...or at this point, The Hot 100 Chart, period, as it would be on the strength of airplay, as downloading songs from NLOTH would not make much of a difference IMHO.

When ever I look at Billboard Magazine, they always have the top 75, that is what the HOT 100 Airplay chart has always been based on, 75 positions. But, generally, you usually need to have at least one song in the top 10 of several different formats, like Adult Top 40, Modern Rock, Mainstream Rock, in order make it on to the Hot 100 Airplay chart. No top 10 on any of the main formats, or just in one format won't be enough.

 

[bathiu]

Bono talks about U2's 360 Degree Tour in exclusive interview
Welland Tribune
September 17, 2009
BY Jane Stevenson, Sun Media

SUN MEDIA: Did you think you were taking a risk playing so much of the new material off No Line On The Horizon (co-produced by Daniel Lanois and Brian Eno) off the top of the live show, given the album hasn't produced any real hits?

BONO: I love hits, I love 45s, they're a thrill but our first responsibility for this album was to make an extraordinary album. We wanted to make an album as they were a dying species, a nearly instinct species. We said, `Let's make an album with a beginning, middle and end, and take people into a world, and so that was our first thing ... just to be challenging both of ourselves and our audience, and we succeeded with that. And maybe in that mind set you don't write a pop song, and that's probably what happened. But they're great songs, they're just not pop songs."

 

[Native_Son]

hopefully next time lillywhite will produce and it will be HTDAAB part 2

 

[fedeu2]

hopefully next time lillywhite will produce and it will be HTDAAB part 2

Actually, that would suck.

 

[Native_Son]

Actually, that would suck.

really? I dont understand the anti-rock opinions that a lot of people on this forum seem to have, without any undue disrespect of course.
Not only that but there seems to be a dislike for the big 'hit' singles.
there were about 7-8 songs on HTDAAB which could have easily been big hit singles, bigger than most of NLOTH for certain. surely in most peoples opinions hit songs are the best songs on the album, which is why they become hits in the first place - ultimately this is what sells albums. so wouldnt an album full of singles, be better than an album full of well 'album' filler material. for example if U2:18 was a normal studio album, would majority of people on this forum view it as being one of U2's weakest albums, just beacause its packed with hit songs?

 

[fedeu2]

really? I dont understand the anti-rock opinions that a lot of people on this forum seem to have, without any undue disrespect of course.
Not only that but there seems to be a dislike for the big 'hit' singles.
there were about 7-8 songs on HTDAAB which could have easily been big hit singles, bigger than most of NLOTH for certain. surely in most peoples opinions hit songs are the best songs on the album, which is why they become hits in the first place - ultimately this is what sells albums. so wouldnt an album full of singles, be better than an album full of well 'album' filler material. for example if U2:18 was a normal studio album, would majority of people on this forum view it as being one of U2's weakest albums, just beacause its packed with hit songs?

You´re preaching to the converted here. I LOVE HTDAAB and for me it´s one of the best U2 albums ever (makes my Top 5). I do think NLOTH is even better though.
But my point was I would hate if U2 started to rehash old material and repeat themselves, be it HTDDAB 2, AB 2 or JT 2.
After all, one of the main reasons for us to love this band is their constant effort to reinvent themselves and push boundaries, right?
Even ATYCLB and HTDAAB did not sound like anything they had done in the past and those were the albums dubbed as "safe".
I don´t have a problem with hits, on the contrary hits are what make a band big and U2 is no exception. But at this point I appreciate songs such as NLOTH, UC or MOS much more than a hypothetical Vertigo 2 or Beautiful day 2.
Anyhow, the good news is U2 seem to have enough material to release a new album very soon! Either that, or Bono is definitely a mythomaniac

 

[Native_Son]

thanks for the comments. hope we will see a new (more commercial) album soon. however i would expect that the new material will be the songs that the band thought were not good enough for NLOTH, although bono did say they would only release a new album this year if it were better than NLOTH. i dont think we should get our hopes up for anything new untill at least 2012 though.

 

[KUEFC09U2]

thanks for the comments. hope we will see a new (more commercial) album soon. however i would expect that the new material will be the songs that the band thought were not good enough for NLOTH, although bono did say they would only release a new album this year if it were better than NLOTH. i dont think we should get our hopes up for anything new untill at least 2012 though.

Apart from SOA you mean?