phanan
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......and your point?
Did you even bother reading the rest of the conversation associated with that post?
And you wonder why you get ragged on...
......and your point?
The problem with Viva la Vida as a single is it simply isn't big enough...it's too empty, that dude up there banging that drum and that bell isn't going to cut it....the only thing it has going for it is its catchiness...but they can't rely solely on that. When everything settles down, it will begin to fall into place.
I think if Coldplay was going to rival JT/AB then we would see some progress. Despite what GG sees in Viva la Vida, it's not enough...sure it's better than past albums, but compare U2's albums leading up to JT. You could feel it coming...I'm not feeling it with Coldplay
The problem with Viva la Vida as a single is it simply isn't big enough...it's too empty, that dude up there banging that drum and that bell isn't going to cut it...
Coldplay are also big fans of Echo And The Bunnymen. Goodness me, could it be that their sweeping atmospherics and delayed guitars aren't ONLY influenced by U2?
Rob, you seem to be forgetting that this is all subjective. While we hold up JT as a masterpiece, there are people out there (critics included) who think that it's a fucking awful album. Coldplay could release an album that is just as well received and critically acclaimed as The Joshua Tree - in other words, a masterpiece - and you'd probably still hate it..
When Coldplay tops major lists and takes home big awards for this album, then get back to me--to revert back to Thom Yorke's original line, just because YOU feel it doesn't mean it's there.
I can't believe what I'm reading. Is GG seriously defending Coldplay right now?
This thread is so 2005.
I'm beating a dead horse now, but I can't help myself. Before Coldplay, there was U2. Before them, Echo & The Bunnymen. I hear that Kraft Dinner was once influenced my macaroni before it became Kraft Dinner. Ultimately, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. At one point Pepsi wanted to be Coke, Pampers wanted to be Huggies. It’s evolution spurred on by inspiration. We all do it, whether it’s using a phrase by a favourite author or by wearing the same kind of jean jacket that looks great on Thom Yorke.
This album is a bit different. I think Coldplay have finally eclipsed the mere ‘imitation’ tag and have created a great album…period. You can over-analyze their motivations, but as GG says, it’s a cohesive effort from start to finish. Yes, it's flush with their inspirations, however, it’s also a work of art that really takes you on a journey. That's an extremely rare thing these days. “Transcendental” might be giving it too great a review, but it’s at least as good as a really great day in the park with an unlimited supply of ice cream…a success by any measure.
Exactly!...they are obviously another major influence. Ian McCulloch has even spent time with them in the studio. The first part of Yes on this album really reminds me of present-day Bunnymen material...the ragged, worn, and cynical-sounding vocals are eerily similar.
Did you even bother reading the rest of the conversation associated with that post?
And you wonder why you get ragged on...
...For the benefit of the people in EYKIW who might be in doubt, here's an audio clip to prove it: YouTube - coldplay - lips like sugar
I don't have anything to add to that. Very well-said.
Again, I agree. The Bunnymen have been a huge influence on Coldplay's sound. For the benefit of the people in EYKIW who might be in doubt, here's an audio clip to prove it: YouTube - coldplay - lips like sugar
GG thanks for the insightful comments, but I honestly don't know why you bother. There will be people out there that will continue to hold on to their opinions no matter what.
As for me, I won't let some comments from people on the internets influence what I listen to. Ultimately, it's up to each individual person to choose what they like to listen to, and to stop ragging on others when their musical tastes differ from theirs.
Again, musical tastes are subjective. I love Coldplay, I love U2. Do I see similarities between C-Play and U2? Of course I do. Do I care? No, why should I? Will it make me like either band less? No.
To me, all this back and forth on either side of the argument is useless. Why don't people just let things be? To use a sports analogy, if a coach yells the same thing to his/her players day in and day out, eventually the players will start to tune out. They won't listen. They won't care. This is human nature. So, to bring it back to this context, if there are people saying the same thing over and over and over about Coldplay, will it make a difference? No, because over time that person's opinions will fall on deaf ears because we will have heard them before.
Honestly, all this back and forth is becoming annoying. I wholeheartedly enjoy this album, despite, or rather, in spite of its supposed similarities to other bands out there. I still enjoy A Rush of Blood to the Head more, though.
Rob33, a dead horse cannot be made any deader by repeated beatings. It's already dead.
yeah I meant to delete that post, and I thought I did. I got back to my computer and didn't realize there was a next page with your questionable quote already being discussed. But, just for the record....when did I "wonder why" I "get ragged on" ??? And how exactly do I "get ragged on" ??? And how do you know I "wonder why" I "get ragged on" ??? You make it sound like I'm some self-pitying victim sitting and sulking behind a computer... As far as I can tell, this has been a fine discussion...but THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT, PHANAN
How cool is Martin's duet with Kanye......fair track that.
The guy's a champion.
How cool is Martin's duet with Kanye......fair track that.
One of the reasons Martin comes across as a "twat" to some (again, a minority) people is because of the inane repetitive questions he keeps getting asked in interviews......and there are many of these interviews.
The guy's a champion. Love the way he gets all enthusiastic like a school kid about things, and how it comes out stupidly sometimes, but he's not trying to hide anything. He's very real, like many of us would be if we were put in the same situation. Which is a rather nice situation, let's not be envious. Reeks of tall poppy syndrome.
GG thanks for the insightful comments, but I honestly don't know why you bother. There will be people out there that will continue to hold on to their opinions no matter what.
As for me, I won't let some comments from people on the internets influence what I listen to. Ultimately, it's up to each individual person to choose what they like to listen to, and to stop ragging on others when their musical tastes differ from theirs.
Again, musical tastes are subjective. I love Coldplay, I love U2. Do I see similarities between C-Play and U2? Of course I do. Do I care? No, why should I? Will it make me like either band less? No.
To me, all this back and forth on either side of the argument is useless. Why don't people just let things be? To use a sports analogy, if a coach yells the same thing to his/her players day in and day out, eventually the players will start to tune out. They won't listen. They won't care. This is human nature. So, to bring it back to this context, if there are people saying the same thing over and over and over about Coldplay, will it make a difference? No, because over time that person's opinions will fall on deaf ears because we will have heard them before.
Honestly, all this back and forth is becoming annoying. I wholeheartedly enjoy this album, despite, or rather, in spite of its supposed similarities to other bands out there. I still enjoy A Rush of Blood to the Head more, though.
90's kid with 90's hair and a 90's baggy shirt.
You're right.
It just frustrates me when I see people being so blinded by their loyalty to U2 that they are incapable of forming rational comments. Ever since this album leaked, certain people (not naming names, but they know who they are) have been bombarding Interference with the same old Coldplay/U2 rubbish, to the point where they are overemphasising these similarities - and sometimes even plain inventing them. I mean, for goodness' sake...someone actually said that even though, as I proved, the musical content of Life In Technicolor was not even remotely close to Where The Streets Have No Name, Coldplay copied U2 because the feeling produced by the music is the same. Stated that I should recognise an "Edge-chord" (you know, because The Edge invented chords) when I hear it. Honestly, it's ridiculous! I can't help not addressing that kind of nonsense.
But again, you're right. I'm only perpetuating the argument by countering the claims. I'll do my best to ignore the U2/Coldplay brigade.
So yeah, Lost!...I definitely think that's going to be the next single. It would be interesting if they went with something like Yes, though. It's not a conventional "radio" song, but I think it would do a good job of showing people that they have indeed tried something a little different this time.
Is that for the 90's kid or Rob?
I dunno...I like Elmer's glue...it's so reliable. Except I hate it when it gets on my hands...that's almost as frustrating as Chris Martin.
Oh wow....
Wait.
What?
oh shit I can't stop laughing....
Let it sink in.