Obama General Discussion... (Part 2)

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen

So what was the deal with the Congressman who yelled out "you lie" last night? I was at the Sox game so I didn't see it and I haven't had time to read about it. Could you hear it clearly and when did he do it?

it was Rep. Joe Wilson a Republican (natch) from South Carolina. he yelled "you lie" when Obama said that the health care plan would not cover illegal immigrants.

it was classy all the way.

[martha]

He said he was sorry.

[MrsSpringsteen]

Thanks for answering I just read that Michelle Obama could supposedly be seen saying "damn" in response. My thoughts exactly. Some of them were holding up signs too.

[maycocksean]

Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen

Thanks for answering I just read that Michelle Obama could supposedly be seen saying "damn" in response. My thoughts exactly. Some of them were holding up signs too.

Yeah, Pelosi was starring daggers at him. .

[diamond]

Questions for Obama supporters:

Could O say do something that would make you stop carrying for him? If so what?

Serious answers only.

thank u.

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[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by diamond

Questions for Obama supporters:

Could O say do something that would make you stop carrying for him? If so what?

Serious answers only.

thank u.

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gosh, he'd have to do something really bad, like laugh about executing someone in Texas, torture people, politicizing the entire justice department, bankrupting the country, invading a country, distorting intelligence about WMDs, exploiting post-9/11 fears for political gain, demonizing gay people, allowing the Religious Right to veto SCOTUS nominees, and watching an American city sink into the ocean.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by diamond

Questions for Obama supporters:

Could O say do something that would make you stop carrying for him? If so what?

Serious answers only.

thank u.

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How come when asked about this during the previous 8 years neither you, sting, 2861,indy or others could come up with an answer?

Yet the second he leaves you think of one. On Jan 20 defecits and bailouts start to bother you, enough to protest... pretty pathetic says the rest of the thinking world.

[Strongbow]

Originally Posted by BVS

How come when asked about this during the previous 8 years neither you, sting, 2861,indy or others could come up with an answer?

Well, I think everyone could probably pick things that they disagreed with Bush on in terms of policy. I was never really a supporter of Bush's tax cuts for those making more than 100,000 dollars a year. In 2004, I thought the Kerry Tax plan made more sense than Bush's.

But in a forum like this where 90% of the posters are staunchly anti-Bush and are upset that there are 5 or 6 people in here that would defend and support the administration in many area's, little things like that get lost in the shuffle.

I support the government spending and bailouts(both Bush and Obama) despite the increase in the deficit, because its necessary to get GDP growing again.

[diamond]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

gosh, he'd have to do something really bad, like bankrupting the country,

he's on his way, clear headed people are trying to stop him.

[financeguy]

Originally Posted by diamond

he's on his way, clear headed people are trying to stop him.

Moody's have just announced that the US is not in danger of losing its Aaa credit rating.

Moody’s Confident About U.S. Credit Rating | Daily Markets

[No spoken words]

Originally Posted by financeguy

Moody's have just announced that the US is not in danger of losing its Aaa credit rating.

Moody’s Confident About U.S. Credit Rating | Daily Markets

You're just going to confuse him.

[BVS]

Originally Posted by No spoken words

You're just going to confuse him.

[Bluer White]

Originally Posted by financeguy

Moody's have just announced that the US is not in danger of losing its Aaa credit rating.

Moody’s Confident About U.S. Credit Rating | Daily Markets

Did credit rating agencies like Moody's come up in your thread about the financial meltdown?

[diamond]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

Did credit rating agencies like Moody's come up in your thread about the financial meltdown?

Nope.

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[Earnie Shavers]

Originally Posted by diamond

he's on his way, clear headed people are trying to stop him.

Who are the clear headed ones?

[financeguy]

Originally Posted by diamond

Nope.

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If not international rating agencies, then what's your signal of impending bankruptcy?

The US dollar has depreciated against the Euro since Obama took office, so that could be a negative signal, certainly. That said, it is still worth more against the Euro and other main trading currencies than it was in June 2008, when Bush was still in office.

These things aren't really reducible to soundbites though, are they?

If the US does go bankrupt, then I would allocate the blame 80% Bush cronies, 20% Obama.

[anitram]

Not only did members of the GOP wave signs like they were at a town hall last night, not only did one call the president a liar, but now we find out that one of them stood up and walked out during the speech.

Shimkus walked on Obama: 'Frustrated': The Swamp

Are they trying to collectively have no class or what?

[indra]

Originally Posted by anitram

Are they trying to collectively have no class or what?

I don't think most have to try. It just comes naturally.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by anitram

Not only did members of the GOP wave signs like they were at a town hall last night, not only did one call the president a liar, but now we find out that one of them stood up and walked out during the speech.

Shimkus walked on Obama: 'Frustrated': The Swamp

Are they trying to collectively have no class or what?

it seems like a certain socialist canadian is against free speech.

[financeguy]

I don't see a problem with elected representatives shouting 'you lie' or walking out. These are entirely legitimate expressions of disagreement. I'm sure things like that have happened in the Canadian parliament at some stage or other. The Presidential office shouldn't be some kind of sacred cow, one of the problems with the Bush regime, er sorry, Bush administration was that it was being held up as a sacred cow. Remember the Dixie Chicks?

The problem is with the lunatics on the fringes, the real actual racists, and the far right types that in my view are being manipulated by the globalist corporatists.