beatlesboy said:Yeah, the brokers have piles of tickets that's what really frosts my a$$! No wonder these shows sell out in seconds, when you've only got half the seats in a venue up on TicketBastard the math works out. For the life of me I can't understand how this sh*t is still legal?!?! Just goes to show how competent our government is! Yay!...
That's disappointing when it is not the fans that sell out the place but rather cheesy greasy brokers.beatlesboy said:Yeah, the brokers have piles of tickets that's what really frosts my a$$! No wonder these shows sell out in seconds, when you've only got half the seats in a venue up on TicketBastard the math works out. For the life of me I can't understand how this sh*t is still legal?!?! Just goes to show how competent our government is! Yay!...
hcmiller said:www.totaltickets.com
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looking to get $625 per ticket for LLs that are right next to ones I just sold at face value....
gimme a break... if I can't get tickets for the third leg I'm going to be furious....
editorinchief said:
So for all the people writing their congressmen and senators take a second and think about all the problems in the world and realize that concert tickets are your biggest issue and why you are, probably, for the first time getting involved with you local representatives.
Homeless?Hungry?Jobless? who cares I need tickets!
neutral said:
I know plenty of people on this site who are involved with local or other political causes like fighting hunger, debt relief, AIDS prevention etc. Careful before you assume.
What I think is silly is all the people who assume that because someone is bitching about tickets etc, they must not care about anything else, don't have anything else to worry about, and aren't involved with any good causes.
editorinchief said:
I assure they are they minority. Its not to say that people dont care but everyone is writing letters and protesting. I think it is sad that tickets is what will get people off of their asses.
Brokering has been going on as long as their have been ticketed events. However its only the last two weeks that anyone gave a shit about it. If everyone got their tickets handed to them through Prop nobody would still care.
U2 doesnt owe anyone anything. Nobody is entitled to a ticket. Nobody deserves one more than someone else. I just annoying to her people complain everytime something doesnt suit them.
I actually write for a major music magazine and will be attending the Rock Hall induction next month at the Waldorf. If I see the guys this is the first thing I will ask them and I bet they are of a similar opinion.
editorinchief said:
This whole thing is just ridiculous. Everyone has this sense of entitlement. Everyone thinks they should have the best seats. The fact of the matter is, scalpers or not, just about every city U2 plays there are more fans than there are tickets.
Im glad we live in a capitalist economy. Again, we are talking about concert tickets. So for all the people writing their congressmen and senators take a second and think about all the problems in the world and realize that concert tickets are your biggest issue and why you are, probably, for the first time getting involved with you local representatives.
Homeless?Hungry?Jobless? who cares I need tickets!
i agreeI encourage ppl to report scalpers because IT IS AGAINST THE LAW currently in Some jurisdiction...maybe it will level the playing field...dunno.
editorinchief said:
Im sorry people didnt get tickets but this " I cant believe its legal" mentality is silly.
Why should tickets be the one thing in this country someone cant buy on speculation and sell for a profit. I mean, seriously, we are talking about concert tickets.
MalahideChick said:I don't think people are having such an issue with scalpers buying tix in the general sale. It's the insidious relationship they have with TM which ensures they get a huge slice of tix BEFORE they even go on sale.
editorinchief said:The real skinny on ticketmaster and clearchannel is that the brokers they skim tickets to are themselves. Ticketmaster pulls the best seats for shows, sells them to themself at face value and then sells them under their own brokering agencies for inflated prices so that they end up making more than the artist.
editorinchief said:However, if a joe average scalper can get ahold of tickets before you by simply using the same means as an average person then I have no problem with it at all.
editorinchief said:No, I understand. I work in the music business. I work with ClearChannel on a daily basis. I know all the the ins and outs of how Ticketmaster operates.
This is nothing new. However, most of the tickets you are seeing on Ebay have nothing to do with that. Most of the stuff on Ebay is amateur scalpers.
The real skinny on ticketmaster and clearchannel is that the brokers they skim tickets to are themselves. Ticketmaster pulls the best seats for shows, sells them to themself at face value and then sells them under their own brokering agencies for inflated prices so that they end up making more than the artist.
I interviewed Chris Rock last year and he went into detail with me about it. I was pretty fascinating.
So, yes, I disagree with that aspect of it. However, if a joe average scalper can get ahold of tickets before you by simply using the same means as an average person then I have no problem with it at all.
What I am talking about goes much higher up than the customer service rep level at which you worked. Im not telling anyone what to believe. Im only sharing my personal experience. I believe Chris Rock over a customer service representative.
This actually supports the notion that the brokers/scalpers are indeed going through the same troubles as the rest of us, in order to obtain tickets. If that is in fact the case, then as editorinchief asserts--and others above have agreed--they should be able to treat them as any other commodity and do as they please with them.cmb737 said:Fact: Ticketmaster is not knowingly siphoning tickets to brokers, employees or to any other source. Granted there maybe some fraud committed at an indivudual level, but to claim that this is corporate policy (stated or otherwise) is just irresponsible. Lame as well.