Niceman
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I think GOYB WAS the safe way for them to go! LOL! safest single on the album!
What will the 4th single be ?
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I think GOYB WAS the safe way for them to go! LOL! safest single on the album!
VintagePunk
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[offtopic] Average IQs can't rise, they're always 100. 100 is average. [/offtopic]
Niceman
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[offtopic] Average IQs can't rise, they're always 100. 100 is average. [/offtopic]
yes, I had had the same thought! LOL!
VintagePunk
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Niceman
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Great minds! I bet our IQs are way above 100.
Definitely our combined IQ, at the very least!
cdirani
War Child
Crazy Tonight. Perfect Pop. It appeals to the rock and pop fans. It'll get the job done.
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Earnie Shavers
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It won’t win back fans who were lost with the Bomb or people who don't like lightweight pop-rock. In fact, in tandem with Boots it will probably push both groups further away. Bring on Breathe. It’s certainly no great re-invention or anything, but U2 fans of all stripes will like it to some degree and it's catchy/very radio friendly, but has a more interesting edge to it.
Niceman
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That's probably all true..........
SleepyDeadMan
War Child
I think releasing only the 'fez' part of fez-BB would be quite interesting
it would just sound like some fuzz on the radio, then every time the radio went fuzzy for real people would think it was u2-then u2 could sue every time the radio plays fuzz saying it was illegal sampling or something-and then Paul M could get his money-then u2 could take a real risk and release MoS because they wouldn't have to worry about a flop 'cause they're wallets would be stuffed
MOS! MOS!
it would just sound like some fuzz on the radio, then every time the radio went fuzzy for real people would think it was u2-then u2 could sue every time the radio plays fuzz saying it was illegal sampling or something-and then Paul M could get his money-then u2 could take a real risk and release MoS because they wouldn't have to worry about a flop 'cause they're wallets would be stuffed
MOS! MOS!
cdirani
War Child
That's a sort of crossroad. I don't think Breathe can make the album breathe for too long, thinking of charts obviously. And I think Crazy Tonight is not that lightweight to be ashamed of the song.
Earnie Shavers
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To be honest, none of these potential singles are going to be that big. As much as I hate Vertigo, it was built for it and had the iPod commercial behind it. And Beautiful Day was about as perfect a pop-rock single as has ever been made. NLOTH has neither one of those, or a single song that is a mix of being universaly regarded as that good as well as easily digestible enough that it will make a mark. I just don't think there's one song on here that on it's own is going to totally turn someone over. It's just not that kind of album.
ludilobrate
Acrobat
People...i think this album sholud put out 5-6 singles...all songs are great...so why not:
1GOYB
2Magnificent,
3:crazy
4MOS
5.Breath
6Stand up
1GOYB
2Magnificent,
3:crazy
4MOS
5.Breath
6Stand up
Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
You guys, Crazy tonight is like the only real single on the album. Not using it as such would be such a missed opportunity.
Agreed!Breathe has a big chance, it's being played live a lot. So they can pull it off.
Niceman
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People...i think this album sholud put out 5-6 singles...all songs are great...so why not:
1GOYB
2Magnificent,
3:crazy
4MOS
5.Breath
6Stand up
Only because there'll be another album supposedly in the fall....
vaz02
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
Stand Up Comedy will be too much like Boots with the huge riff imo.
I don't know who makes the decisions regarding singles, but that person needs to be shot.
The first single should have been NLOTH. It is FAR better than boots, and what more, they even say the name of the fucking album in the song in a rather catchy way.
Then, go with the best song that they have done in years. MoS. Yes, in it's full 7:24 glory. Make sure you get an equally beautiful video shot for it. It's the kind of song that would linger in the charts forever, selling Albums by the bucket load.
Songs that sell the most, and spend the longest time in the charts are usually slow burners.
Downbeat quality >>>>>>>> Upbeat crap.
If GOYB was not U2, it would not even have charted. i mean new entry at 12 as the first single from 'the biggest band in the world'??? Puh-lease. It's not a song that would gain new admirers, but conversely it is likely to alienate some loyal fans.
My choice:
1: NLOTH
2: MoS
3: Magnificient
4: Breathe
This is U2. Don't release what fits in with what you think people want to hear. Release what is good, and people will want to hear it. Should be trend setters, not followers.
My missus does not like U2. In fact, she HATES me playing their records all the time. But BECAUSE of MoS, she has been playing the Album in her car for the last few days. She even sang along to the "..that yea---ea---ea--rns to be free, from control" part which SHOCKED me. Oh, btw, her reaction to GOYB when she heard it... "Typical U2 shit." Speaks volumes if you ask me.
The first single should have been NLOTH. It is FAR better than boots, and what more, they even say the name of the fucking album in the song in a rather catchy way.
Then, go with the best song that they have done in years. MoS. Yes, in it's full 7:24 glory. Make sure you get an equally beautiful video shot for it. It's the kind of song that would linger in the charts forever, selling Albums by the bucket load.
Songs that sell the most, and spend the longest time in the charts are usually slow burners.
Downbeat quality >>>>>>>> Upbeat crap.
If GOYB was not U2, it would not even have charted. i mean new entry at 12 as the first single from 'the biggest band in the world'??? Puh-lease. It's not a song that would gain new admirers, but conversely it is likely to alienate some loyal fans.
My choice:
1: NLOTH
2: MoS
3: Magnificient
4: Breathe
This is U2. Don't release what fits in with what you think people want to hear. Release what is good, and people will want to hear it. Should be trend setters, not followers.
My missus does not like U2. In fact, she HATES me playing their records all the time. But BECAUSE of MoS, she has been playing the Album in her car for the last few days. She even sang along to the "..that yea---ea---ea--rns to be free, from control" part which SHOCKED me. Oh, btw, her reaction to GOYB when she heard it... "Typical U2 shit." Speaks volumes if you ask me.
Niceman
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Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
Ugh I really don't see how people think MoS is the best thing since sliced bread.
Niceman
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Galeongirl
Galeonbroad
Well to be honest, I think it's just as overrated as One.
But that probably means it'll be good single material then. So yea, why not.
But that probably means it'll be good single material then.
So yea, why not.
vaz02
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
MOS would make a terrible single imo. A decent radio song needs to be catchy and straight to the point with a awesome hook and melody.
I don't know about that but I'd take it over Boots any time.
Yeah, like the very well aired and high charting GOYB you mean?
Or like the extremely straight to the point with awesome hook "Apologize" by One Republic which was downloaded in america 4.3 million times? Or the 22 weeks on the Uk charts, Number 1 Billboard "What Goes Around Comes Around" by JT you mean? Or maybe the sonic overload monster beat that "My Heart Will Go On" is that made sure that it stayed at number one forever?
I totally see where you're coming from with this. You're right. GOYB and IGCIIDGCT will definitely sell this album. Definitely.
LastNameonEarth
The Fly
Having heard the album for the first time in full only yesterday, it's maybe a little early for me to say. But at the moment I do think Moment of Surrender should be a single. It's a great song, and great songs should be released for the masses. Only occasionally do U2 produce songs which devoted U2-haters might actually appreciate, and I think MoS is the one song on the album that fits into this category. I like ...Crazy Tonight and Magnificent is great, but they are songs which fall into familiar U2 territory. MoS has its own heart beat, and is as close to a One-like song that U2 may ever come up with now. I'm sure with some very careful editing they could cut it down by a couple of minutes, without losing too much of its natural flow, but if not - especially if it's the fourth single - I think U2 should be brave and release the full album version. With an awesome video.
standrums
War Child
My initial reaction to Crazy tonight was, "what the fuck is this? Why on earth put this poppy piece of shit on there - have you no standards?!".
In my head I began to envision bashing Lillywhite about the studio...I was so disappointed.
After several listens - now don't kill me here - I've become a secret fan of this song. I even admit that I sometimes start the album from that song when I'm in a different mood and want to avoid the beginning.
I can't explain it, I suppose there is a cheesy element to it but I find myself feeling really uplifted by this song and I sing out loud to it, it lacks cynicism I suppose, and in this day and age I don't see this as a problem. And I hate people defining the band, saying what the should do and sound like etc. They can do what they want.
And just for background, this is coming from a fan who found the band when Achtung Baby was released. I love Zooropa, I love The Unforgettable Fire - these are my 3 favourites up until now. I will be slotting NLOTH into the top 4 already - no 1,2 3 or 4 here - just top 4 to suit my different moods at different times. I've been a fan of this band for so long now that I've stopped comparing albums and view each piece of work as a separate entity.
I've already had that weird connection feeling with this album that I haven't felt since Zooropa and have only had it after first listening to UF and AB, that's why I can say firmly, for me, this is top 4 (with War at no. 5
).I, unlike many others never got into The Joshua Tree 100%. I suppose I missed it when it came out, but with one or two exceptions I think The Joshua tree fades after the fifth song. I could say the same about UF (I wasn't there) but that album just does something for me, I can't explain it.
But I digress, this is not a "what is your favourite album and why" post so, back to the original point.
I think people just think they are too "cool" to like Crazy tonight, fair enough. It might not go down in the legends of lore as their best ever song (subjective argument of course, but that's a debate for another day
) but I just love it and I can see it being a good single choice.Second single though - Magnificent I suppose - I'm not sure if the previous news is official. But I think it would do well - it would make the "undecided after hearing Boots brigade" take interest, "mmm, interesting - it's not all like Boots after all on that album".
Then Crazy at 3 then number 4? I don't know. I'm not a complete fan of SUC, it's my least favourite on the album (I go in and out of love of this tune) but I could see why it would be a good single.
I'd love it to be Unknown Caller though - my favourite song on the album.
Thanks for listening (reading)! - That post was pure self-indulgence:
standrums
War Child
Good point - U2 back to being an album band again. Good news, I forgot about that.
First day's sale's went well too - not sure which market this is - UK?? The album outsells all the other top 10 albums put together on the first day of release Music Week - Music Week - Music business magazine - Number one on horizon for U2
Does this need the start of a new thread? Perhaps not, who cares about sales figures?
vaz02
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
I didnt mention GOYB or Crazy Tonight
Apologize 3.28 mins
What Goes Around Comes Around 5.13 mins
My Heart WIll Go On 4.40 mins
If you chop MOS you kill the song, it will no longer be the diamond it is on the album.
You do have a good point there.
I know you didn't mention GOYB or CT, but one was released, and the other probably will be.
However, the Album version of What Goes Around... is much longer. And the video they played VERY regularly was also a lot longer.
The intro for MoS is really quite long, as is the outro. It could easily be played 'in the background' while DJ's talk over the top. The radio edits should be samplers for the singles, and the singles the samplers for the albums. You don't need to hear the whole 7 (or however many) minutes of Hotel California to say "Wow".
IndyShade
The Fly
NONE of the songs on the album are good enough to be singles.
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