Adios, Ultraviolet.
Axver said:Actually, the more I think about a live Survivor, the more I think it might work. How would you folk feel about some rules like this?
1. To qualify, a song has to A). be a U2 original that was played live as an independent track, i.e. not a snippet, and B). a recording has to be available online.
2. Where The Streets Have No Name is disqualified as it would be the unquestionable champion and its inclusion would render the tournament pointless. (Perhaps One too? I say that out of no malice towards the song - I even like the 1997-09-23 perhaps. I rather suspect it is the obvious winner in Streets' absence, but with those two gone, I think it's wide open.)
3. No requests for uploads in the tournament threads. All requests will be ignored. There will instead be a link to Music On The Internet.
4. Opinions on studio versions are relevant only insofar as how the live song improves (or doesn't improve) on the album track.
5. In the case of songs with multiple distinct live versions or with lengthy live careers with varying quality, voters can choose to vote based on a favourite era/version, an opinion of the song's overall live career, or a combination (e.g. "overall, I think A Sort Of Homecoming was the better live song, but I'm voting it off because I think the 1987-11-08 performance of Bad is just so superior and transcendent"). It is up to the individual voter.
Thoughts?
phillyfan26 said:I'd have trouble with that because in some cases the songs change so much from tour to tour. It would be incredibly involved and probably impossible to do, but I was for a short time considering going album to album with each tour's version of each song.
It's just too much, though.
phillyfan26 said:Although, I think what you're saying would work now that I think about it more.
coolian2 said:Alternatively it could be done as best song of x tour, best song of y tour etc
Although i don't know how many poll options you can do. Probably not nearly enough.
Axver said:I think that's why the fifth rule in my post is probably a good idea. Then people can vote on what stands out most to them. We're already somewhat doing that this tournament, with the polls just having "Holy Joe" and people can vote based on their preferred mix.
So some people can vote to protect Bullet because they think the ZooTV version was one of U2's best live moments, or some can vote off WOWY because of its post-1992 marked decline, or I'll want One Tree Hill to win because I think 1989-12-26 is the defining live U2 moment, etc.
Funny how we both did the "that won't work ... hmm ... maybe it could" thing.
phillyfan26 said:No live covers?
phillyfan26 said:I'm working fast on those B-sides to get ready to be a judge.
Axver said:
Polls can have up to 30 options. I'm not sure we could really split it by tour because of how much some songs changed while others have stayed the same. What do you do with a song like I Will Follow?
phillyfan26 said:I think then you run into the problem of judging which songs had significant changes or not.
phillyfan26 said:Pride's different and yet the same every time. It's a toss up.
phillyfan26 said:Walk On had an electric and acoustic, didn't it?
Also, two OOTS styles.
coolian2 said:How many different versions do you think about though - such as i love the acoustic ISHFWILF but i'm not a fan of full band. I'd vote in favour of the acoustic versions ahead of some songs, but i know the majority are thinking of the full band.