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lazarus
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I enjoyed The Sun Also Rises more than I did the Great Gatsby, though Hemingway and Fitzgerald are very different writers. Ultimately I loved both books but if I had to pick a favorite I'd go with Hemingway.
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Daisy Buchanan: human being with tragically willful lack of self knowledge, operating out of fear and self protection. There are more choices than the madonna and the whore, my dears.
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So what do we do now if's all been said/
no new ideas in the house and every book has been read?
powerhour24
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Hemingway over Fitzgerald? 
(Though I will say, Gatsby is not Fitzgerald's great contribution to literature if you ask me, that would be This Side of Paradise, messy and clearly youthful but that's the appeal, it's honest and impacting and not calculated).
In any case, Richard Yates was the great American novelist.
(Though I will say, Gatsby is not Fitzgerald's great contribution to literature if you ask me, that would be This Side of Paradise, messy and clearly youthful but that's the appeal, it's honest and impacting and not calculated).In any case, Richard Yates was the great American novelist.
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You can't mention great American novelists without a nod to Cormac McCarthy. Blood Meridian is one of the greatest novels of the past 50 100 150 years.
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As long as you'e talking about Cormac McCarthy, fuck the thread police. Much as I love the Border Trilogy and The Road and No Country...Blood Meridian is my favorite. Amazing that someone capable of writing so poetically can conjure up such brutality.
Oh, and, everyone can hate away but I prefer Steinbeck to Hemingway and Fitzgerald....even though I enjoy things about all three.
Oh, and, everyone can hate away but I prefer Steinbeck to Hemingway and Fitzgerald....even though I enjoy things about all three.
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Blood Meridian... 
I'd love to read The Road and No Country someday.
I'd love to read The Road and No Country someday.
Catman
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Blood Meridian...
I'm here to bask in the Blood Meridian love, too
lazarus
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Hemingway over Fitzgerald?
TSOP is a refreshing debut, but the pinnacle of Scott's career was Tender Is The Night. Not as perfectly distilled as The Great Gatsby (which is as worthy of The Great American Novel title as anything), but contains his most glorious passages.
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Nice. How about John Dos Passos, specifically the USA trilogy?
He's the second brightest talent of the Lost Generation after Fitzgerald.
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I prefer maeby funke's Classic film adaptation starrin Jude law- the young man and the beach
ugh, agreed. sars, i hate hemingway. fitzgerald is easily my favourite author, but having just finished re-reading this side of paradise a couple weeks ago, it's definitely not my favourite. i remember when i first read all his novels years ago, my favourite was the beautiful and the damned. i've been planning to re-read them all this summer but i'm being lazy and time's getting away from me.Hemingway over Fitzgerald?
but i read the great gatsby about half a dozen times a couple months ago (i wasn't obsessed, i was writing an analysis paper and had to keep looking for metaphors and quotes) and i think it's flawless.
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Steinbeck definitely deserves to be mentioned in any discussion of great American writers. And some of Hemingway's writing cannot be described as anything short of exquisite.
Of course none of these hacks you guys are talking about can hold a candle to the greatest American writer of all - and one of the greatest ever - Edgar Allan Poe
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I'm looking forward to Bono's new dreadlocks and the next Caribbean style video with the band relaxing on a giant pool with margaritas and half naked women dancing. Miami reloaded!
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Baked McGuinness: U2's New Reggae album 'Ten Reasons to not give a flying f' due out "before years end"
U2's longtime manager, between tokes and bong hits, has let it slip that his band's latest album, the often delayed follow-up to 2009's 'No line on the horizon' is set to arrive in stores just in time for the holi-daze. McGuinness, coughing, admits he would have liked to have the album out sooner, but also states the band had to re-write many of the lyrics after the original album lyrics were washed away out to sea one morning after a night of wild partying. Legend has it Bono apparently drank an entire case of wine and the Edge ate an entire field of magic mushrooms, McGuinness himself was said to be tripping on acid and heaving over the side of his 180 ft yacht. This madcap event took place in an undisclosed exotic location late last summer along with album co-stars Apache Indian, Spragga Benz, and Shaggy. It is unclear what role Larry and Adam had in this mele, though rumor has it Adam played escort to native women and designated driver for the band. Most of their time on the island Larry seldom left his beachside resort, often pouting at the new album's lack of drum solos. When asked for his opinion, Coldplay's Chris Martin was not shy for words; "they're a bunch of wankers. They had a great rock & pop album in the making, Epic and Mind bending, but instead the band (and manager) and company got so high they completely lost the secret to the universe, once again. When asked to reply to Martin's criticism, Blazed McGuinness looked thoughtful for several minutes without saying a word. Then finally, after what seemed like an eternity, he became very animated and managed to put the Martin rumor to rest "NONSENSE! The new album is (unintelligible)! LOTS of HITS!"
Apache Indian.
God, that was a blast from the past! This was flat out the best post in the last few pages. Keep it up, Mrs. Garrison.In my mind...
This Side of Paradise is good, but it bugs me that Fitzgerald felt it appropriate to write a semiautobiography before really having done anything interesting.
The Beautiful and the Damned is exquisitely dark, cynical, and funny. It feels like the closest of Fitzgerald's non-Gatsby works to Gatsby, to me.
Gatsby is, indeed, flawless.
Tender Is the Night is wonderful, painful, and beautiful.
I also really like Zelda's book, Save Me the Waltz. It's probably the most autobiographical book that either of the two wrote, and it's quite good. Comparing the characters of Nicole Warren and Alabama Beggs, as well as David Knight and Dick Diver, is interesting. But, from what I can tell, SMTW is much closer to reality than TITN (and than TITN was meant to be). I wish Zelda had written more.
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Blood Meridian...
Suttree. above all others... read Suttree...
powerhour24
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Big, big
for this. Also I agree with you on Tender is the Night over Gatsby, some of the best prose ever committed to paper.
powerhour24
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Steinbeck wrote what to me is the greatest novel on American history, East of Eden. I am not always a fan though, some of his novellas are too unsubtle for my taste (The Red Pony, The Pearl), but his longer works are stunning. I actually owe it to someone on here that I have him another chance, in school I hated being made to read him because I found his overly descriptive prose & depressing world view too much, but someone told me I couldn't make up my mind about him before reading East of Eden. They were right, & it's the perfect use of his style even though it's pushed to the extreme. The hundreds of pages of detailed stage setting are entirely necessary for the power of the payoff, as are the negative things that happen to Cal, without both the lesson he learns would not be profound. I revisited the others I had to read in school & changed my mind on those as well. I've subsequently had to teach The Pearl & The Red Pony again though & unfortunately my thoughts on those sti stand. Fitzgerald's characters had the greatest inner lives, & his charm was always in his prose, thats why there are no good adaptations of his novels, the plots are hardly the most important element. It would take a very talented filmmaker to take on his work but be willing to make it something on the same level but separate from the material, like the way Joe Wright did with Atonement. Otherwise you're just making audiobooks with costumes & you're doing yourself a disservice by opening yourself up to comparison to Fitzgerald. McCarthy is a brilliant mood setter but rarely resonates with me because the subject matter is less relatable to me & isn't made to connect with modern life. But The Road is one that is made to reach the reader where we are now & is especially cutting, plus the entire thing is like a modern work by Homer, told in free verse poetry. I will say I haven't read his other works multiple times & I was probably a bit young to appreciate them when I did.
Yates, while perhaps erring on the side of pessimism, got right to the core of the perversities of American life in his time & wasn't afraid to shatter the idyllic image the country held for itself then, & while the setting ages, the banality & falseness of the suburban dream & people who believe themselves destined for great things merely because they're told they can do so is still very relevant.
powerhour24
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Why should it? He wrote from where he was in life & does it so well, that's why that book has such an impact for me, because it's so real to the author the reader can't help but feel it. The rest of his novels swing for the fences more in what they're trying to say thematically & do very well, but the honesty & I guess quaintness by comparison here makes it so much more dear to me. You don't see him pulling the strings on the reader, you just catch yourself & realize how invested you are in the characters lives at some point. It isn't arrogant to write from what you know, nor did he write it as An Important Biography. Besides, it took getting that off his chest for him to have the confidence to give us all the rest of his work.
Globo14
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So how 'bout that new U2 album?
jeevey
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He's not an American, but don't forget Ford Madox Ford's Parade's End.
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