PhilsFan
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Off the top of my head, I can't think of a person I hate more right now. Fuck Rick Santorum.
Off the top of my head, I can't think of a person I hate more right now. Fuck Rick Santorum.
I found it odd, if that's the word, to hear a Catholic using the language of America being locked in a spiritual war with Satan, who rots the country from within through its institutions. To me that's more something I'd expect to hear from a certain type of Baptist. I guess that could just be a question of limited social exposure on my part.
Oh, he does; lately his stump speeches have mostly been about how he wants to be remembered as the guy who revived American manufacturing (yeah right), etc. The speech I posted above was from 2008 and not a campaign speech. It's just that, like PFan said earlier, the networks are focused on finding the controversial stuff; and anyhow the conservatives I know, and I know quite a few, themselves seem more concerned with, Do you want the Electable Guy or the Guy Who Actually Stands For Something, rather than on debating the merits of anyone's economic platform. I don't really expect much reporting on anyone's economic agenda until the general election, honestly. And then there'll doubtless be a lot of populist b.s. from both candidates about 'reviving American manufacturing,' which everyone knows is never going to happen.I'm honestly curious to find out the last time Santorum talked about jobs in any meaningful way.
Yes! I actually remember teachers at the Catholic high school I went to admonishing just that, "Offer it up," whenever someone whined. Although, there WAS also one teacher there, she taught this course on 'Catholic Life' or something like that, who belonged to a subsect or lay order or whatever you call it which was charismatic (and I think maybe Opus Dei-linked, though I wouldn't have known what that was then). And she really would make fire'n'brimstone speeches from time to time; once I made the mistake of offhandedly saying that whatever topic she was addressing wasn't really a big deal in Judaism, and she actually came and stood over my desk, fixed me with this ferocious glare and ranted about some dream she'd supposedly had in which she saw angels and demons fighting over my soul. Ooookay. So in some form or another there are holy roller types everywhere, I get that, we have them in Judaism too. Santorum seems to me like a somewhat different phenomenon, though; his views (on contraception etc.) are recognizably Catholic, and there's something vaguely Catholic too about the earnest wonkishness with which he discusses ethical issues, but the way he frames stuff, all these emotionally charged doom'n'gloom narratives about Satan and our collective national spiritual downfall and all that, that just really hits my ear as odd and unexpected coming from a Catholic. Has nothing direct to do with his policy platform, but like everyone else I like to be able to locate a politician in some social context that makes sense to me, and I'm having a bit of a hard time doing that with Santorum.You're tired from waking up early for 7:30 mass? Offer it up.
so do you think Biden will run in 2016? I mean after 8 years of being VP he'd probably want the nomination.
Santorum seems to me like a somewhat different phenomenon, though; his views (on contraception etc.) are recognizably Catholic, and there's something vaguely Catholic too about the earnest wonkishness with which he discusses ethical issues
deep said:Biden in 2016, not likely at all.
If Obama ends on a high note, the economy doing well and with a popularity in the 60s one might speculate.
Bush 1 and Gore were seen as major contributors to successful and popular administrations. And they both were able win.
He was speaking at Oral Roberts University. I've heard about that place .
I don't see Hillary running