SOE 15: Crickets
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also, Tedder is in a bubble of his own (re. so-called context of what 20-year-olds listen to) - music is so massively vast today, so many genres appealing to young people without having to specifically tailor it to them or serve it up on a plate (speaking of which, how about tying the album in with a free food deal? my lot might be interested in that
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I don't think it is patronising at all. I'm really into trying to connect with the music my 11 year old son is into and there are some interesting bands out there. Their music has really good beats. My son and daughter really like U2 songs and know quite a few of them. I think it would be cool for them to like the lyrics and think the beats are catchy as well. In my teens and 20's I gravitated to the catchy dance remixes SATS comes to mind so I guess they were pandering to me then...it worked!!
That was close on 20 years ago and it was our and the band's generation - it was where we and the band were at at that time... Now, there is a huge generation gap - i just dread them doing another Crazy Tonight and looking oldsadbastardy lol
Muad'zin
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Remixes were why I pretty much stopped buying U2 singles. They had remixes in the 80's but they at least sounded like re-arranged yet recognizable U2 songs. The dance crap they put on singles in the 90's were just not my cup of tea. So yeah, put out a secondary remix album? Go ahead! Don't expect me to get it though.
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It would be interesting to have two experiences for SOE. One for mass consumption (remixes) and then live versions. IMO it would add a new layer of excitement to the tour. If successful they could then release a live album and get even more legs from the album.
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This is a confusing post; are you saying to release a remix version of SOE and a live version of SOE(somehow before the tour) and no real studio album? And then if successful another live album?
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Release remix album Pre-tour and then live version. Could be interesting.
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Ok
Well I'm sure we'll get another bluray for this leg, but no one really buys live albums anymore.
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One potentially interesting thing about having a remix album/singles on top of a standard album is that it could free up the original album to be less compromised, and a little more 'aggressive', as Gavin Friday hinted the tunes were sounding.
As in, if they have remixes that fully commit to a commercial, dancey, youthful sound, then the original album could be 'rougher round the edges' without having to be polished. A less radio-friendly rock album that doesn't need to compromise to create 'hits'.
Imagine if we had gotten a fully Danger Mouse produced SoI, and then a separate release with Miracle/EBW/California fully produced and remixed by other producers like Tedder, Epworth, and/or Kygo.
I wonder if anything like that might happen for SoE. Two uncompromising versions of the album.
As in, if they have remixes that fully commit to a commercial, dancey, youthful sound, then the original album could be 'rougher round the edges' without having to be polished. A less radio-friendly rock album that doesn't need to compromise to create 'hits'.
Imagine if we had gotten a fully Danger Mouse produced SoI, and then a separate release with Miracle/EBW/California fully produced and remixed by other producers like Tedder, Epworth, and/or Kygo.
I wonder if anything like that might happen for SoE. Two uncompromising versions of the album.
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sounds a bit like Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells / Tubular Beats!
i bought Tubular Beats for my OH for a laugh as he loved Tubular Bells back in the day - it is actually dire
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who knows though, remixes could be great! i don't have a problem with the idea of remixes if done well and if not cringe-worthy, i was just pissed at the assumption that it was the only way of reaching young people
argh but getting trendy djs in on it, i don't know - i guess i will have to reserve that judgement til i hear the songs!
argh but getting trendy djs in on it, i don't know - i guess i will have to reserve that judgement til i hear the songs!
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If they release a two disc album... one with studio mixes, one with remixes form the popular DJs of the day? Hey, they've been doing that forever. It's probably pretty smart.
If they take the studio album and have it remixed by DJs, and then release those remixes AS the album, then that's pretty shitty, lame, and total pandering to "hits"
If they take the studio album and have it remixed by DJs, and then release those remixes AS the album, then that's pretty shitty, lame, and total pandering to "hits"
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i actually really dig the idea of an aggressive sounding SoE paired with remixes by DJs....i think it would appease U2 fans as well as those looking to boogie a bit....Do the kids still say "boogie"?
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Do the kids still say "boogie"?
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true, but it never used to be the main focus - that was always the album - remixes were just extras
when the only bits of news getting out at the moment are just about djs and reaching 20-year olds, that gets a little bit disconcerting
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they should go for it and do a scream/growly metalcore version of everything - apparently kids love that kind of thing these days too
Right... which is why I put a second part to that basically saying what you said
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how many more threads can we have speculating and complaining before we hear new music or at the very least, news of a release date? I'm going with this one plus 3 more.
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Right... which is why I put a second part to that basically saying what you said
oh yeah!
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this. its all speculation that its a companion disc, and there is a fairly good chance they would be desperate enough to make it the actually album, or at least part of it.
the sad, desperate, out of touch part is believe that either is going to get them a hit or make them popular with kids today.
i'm sorry but that is so patronising to 20-year-olds
they're not all bloody dumb and dumber, don't need to dumb it all down and spoonfeed the music to them...
my 18 and 20 year olds pick and choose the music they like - if the songs are strong that's all that matters, don't dress it up in a dance beat to attract the discerning ears... oh man that smacks of desperation - that's it i hate the songs already
I think he means it in a more 'if a tree falls..' Sort of way. Meaning, if U2 puts out new music, but no one is playing it, how would a '20 year old' even know it was out there? Some remixes would have their music played on a wider range of music outlets than just the classic rock and adult alternative stations. Which means more exposure, and the potential for new listeners to gravitate to the music. But if the song doesn't even sonically fit the landscape of what's being played out there, it won't be given a chance.
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No, that chance is slim to none. If that was the case he would have talked about roping in a lot of djs to produce tracks.
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And I think if done right it's a terrific way to get themselves to a new audience without sacrificing the core product. I remember when the Stones put out a bunch of remixes of Sympathy For The Devil. All of a sudden I'd hear the Neptunes produced version in places you certainly would not expect to hear the Stones.
If done poorly, though... it comes off as reeking of desperation, sad and pathetic.
So just like with the last release, it's all in the details of the delivery.
And that's where I'm meh on this idea. Because when was the last time U2 actually promoted something well? ATYCLB was promoted and marketed very well, and deserving of the results.
Vertigo was a smashing success due to the iPod commercial.
After that.....yeah, not so much.
Fact is we have no freaking clue what the band is up to. I think a 2nd disc of remixed songs sounds neat if it's truly remixed, and not just a faster beat like most of the 90's remixed songs. NLOTH2 was a nice alternative track to the album version. Something along those lines would be cool.
But knowing U2 and their quest for HITS, LOTS OF HITS!!! They are probably taking the Crazy Tonight method again and popping the shit out of a song that doesn't need it.
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What, no one liked the jam packed Crazy Tonight single that had almost an hours worth of remixes for one song...
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