U2 is like that one guy that every graduating class has that is still hanging around the high school looking for girls when he's 23.
They're looking for their "cake by the ocean"
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I don't think there were any negative connotations to 20 year olds - just saying music today is different. He didn't indicate whether it was better or worse, and considering he is part of music today, is argue he was in fact being complimentary to 20 year olds
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I don't think it is patronising at all. I'm really into trying to connect with the music my 11 year old son is into and there are some interesting bands out there. Their music has really good beats. My son and daughter really like U2 songs and know quite a few of them. I think it would be cool for them to like the lyrics and think the beats are catchy as well. In my teens and 20's I gravitated to the catchy dance remixes SATS comes to mind so I guess they were pandering to me then...it worked!!
In my teens and 20s I pretty much ignored U2's remixes. Maybe I'm too much of a ROCK purist... I have never considered listening to hip hop / rap / R&B. I have nothing against it, I just never really liked it. To me, remixes were always taking up space that a real B-side could've been taking.
That was close on 20 years ago and it was our and the band's generation - it was where we and the band were at at that time... Now, there is a huge generation gap - i just dread them doing another Crazy Tonight and looking oldsadbastardy lol
It would be interesting to have two experiences for SOE. One for mass consumption (remixes) and then live versions. IMO it would add a new layer of excitement to the tour. If successful they could then release a live album and get even more legs from the album.
Release remix album Pre-tour and then live version. Could be interesting.
One potentially interesting thing about having a remix album/singles on top of a standard album is that it could free up the original album to be less compromised, and a little more 'aggressive', as Gavin Friday hinted the tunes were sounding.
As in, if they have remixes that fully commit to a commercial, dancey, youthful sound, then the original album could be 'rougher round the edges' without having to be polished. A less radio-friendly rock album that doesn't need to compromise to create 'hits'.
Imagine if we had gotten a fully Danger Mouse produced SoI, and then a separate release with Miracle/EBW/California fully produced and remixed by other producers like Tedder, Epworth, and/or Kygo.
I wonder if anything like that might happen for SoE. Two uncompromising versions of the album.
Do the kids still say "boogie"?
If they release a two disc album... one with studio mixes, one with remixes form the popular DJs of the day? Hey, they've been doing that forever. It's probably pretty smart.
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Right... which is why I put a second part to that basically saying what you saidtrue, but it never used to be the main focus - that was always the album - remixes were just extras
when the only bits of news getting out at the moment are just about djs and reaching 20-year olds, that gets a little bit disconcerting
Right... which is why I put a second part to that basically saying what you said
If they release a two disc album... one with studio mixes, one with remixes form the popular DJs of the day? Hey, they've been doing that forever. It's probably pretty smart.
If they take the studio album and have it remixed by DJs, and then release those remixes AS the album, then that's pretty shitty, lame, and total pandering to "hits"
i'm sorry but that is so patronising to 20-year-olds
they're not all bloody dumb and dumber, don't need to dumb it all down and spoonfeed the music to them...
my 18 and 20 year olds pick and choose the music they like - if the songs are strong that's all that matters, don't dress it up in a dance beat to attract the discerning ears... oh man that smacks of desperation - that's it i hate the songs already
this. its all speculation that its a companion disc, and there is a fairly good chance they would be desperate enough to make it the actually album, or at least part of it.
And I think if done right it's a terrific way to get themselves to a new audience without sacrificing the core product. I remember when the Stones put out a bunch of remixes of Sympathy For The Devil. All of a sudden I'd hear the Neptunes produced version in places you certainly would not expect to hear the Stones.I think he means it in a more 'if a tree falls..' Sort of way. Meaning, if U2 puts out new music, but no one is playing it, how would a '20 year old' even know it was out there? Some remixes would have their music played on a wider range of music outlets than just the classic rock and adult alternative stations. Which means more exposure, and the potential for new listeners to gravitate to the music. But if the song doesn't even sonically fit the landscape of what's being played out there, it won't be given a chance.
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And I think if done right it's a terrific way to get themselves to a new audience without sacrificing the core product. I remember when the Stones put out a bunch of remixes of Sympathy For The Devil. All of a sudden I'd hear the Neptunes produced version in places you certainly would not expect to hear the Stones.
If done poorly, though... it comes off as reeking of desperation, sad and pathetic.
So just like with the last release, it's all in the details of the delivery.