Irvine511
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Post thoughts and issues about gayness here.
Lots and lots of gay guys are masculine. People just don't think they're gay.
I have zero interest in outing someone, but I'm just going to mention as I did in the NFL thread that Michael Sam is not even the only gay player in this NFL draft class. I'm hopeful that more and more players feel comfortable sooner rather than later.
Exactly. And we can somehow praise guys for not setting off the gaydar? That's better somehow, because it's better to be "straight-acting"? Seems fishy.
I've heard a little about this, that many gay men specify that they want "straight acting" partners in personal ads, or advertize themselves as such. What do you think is the deal with this?
It's internalized homophobia.
You could very well be right. I mean, I hope it's not the case, because it's that many more people who are being made to feel like they can't be themselves, but I'm sure it's something like that, numbers-wise.I imagine he's not the only gay person in any nfl draft class. Anytime you line up a couple of hundred guys, statistically speaking you must have to get at least 8 or 10, even by conservative estimates.
It doesn't how masculine you are, having sex with a man isn't straight-acting.
You're putting both gay men and straight men in boxes in terms of mannerisms and behavior. Gay guys like football, straight men like ballet.
Terms like "masc" or "fem" might be more appropriate.
I can understand being attracted to a more "masc" or "fem" guy, but to express a preference for, or describe yourself as, "straight-acting" is false because if he were he wouldn't be having sex with you.
Lots and lots of gay guys are masculine. People just don't think they're gay.
It doesn't how masculine you are, having sex with a man isn't straight-acting.
I think we can go ahead and close this thread?
Actually, it's more a public health term.
When assessing things like HIV, doctors do to ask patients, especially members of certain populations, if they are gay, straight, or bi. They try to determine if they have sex with men. These categories are meaningless to them. They entirely straight identify and may have families, and they don't feel closeted like a Republican politician. It's a cultural thing. In other countries, especially those where women are all burka'd up, dudes have sex with each other all the time.
So it's complicated.
Wait, is this the gay equivalent of me imagining my wife spends her time in the ladies locker room oiling up with other sexy ladies?
Men who have sex with men - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaMSM and gay refer to different things: behaviors and social identities. MSM refers to sexual activities between men, regardless of how they identify, whereas gay can include those activities but is more broadly seen as a cultural identity. Homosexuality refers to sexual/romantic attraction between members of the same sex and may or may not include romantic relationships. Gay is a social identity and is generally the preferred social term, whereas homosexual is used in formal contexts, though the terms are not entirely interchangeable. Men who are non-heterosexual or questioning may identify with all, none, a combination of these, or one of the newer terms indicating a similar sexual, romantic, and cultural identity like bi-curious. In their assessment of the knowledge about the sexual networks and behaviors of MSM in Asia, Dowsett, Grierson and McNally concluded that the category of MSM does not correspond to a single social identity in any of the countries they studied.[4] There were no similar traits in all of the MSM population studied, other than them being males and engaging in sex with other men.
The other interesting thing about the preference for "straight acting" is that it says there is a right way for men to act: not feminine. Because anything that's not super dudely is bad. It's okay if you have sex with guys as long as you're not, you know, femmy. And maybe it's kind of the same with women--people don't really get pissed about two hot girls acting sexy together (hey, that's sexy) but they do about butchy women. That's offensive!
This idea of homosexual promiscuity is pretty pervasive in the medical literature, but I have seen LGBT advocates bristle at the suggestion.
i think male promiscuity is more the issue, not so much gay vs. straight.