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BloodRedSky2k5 said:
I think they were just improvising in that clip. The YouTube link posted on @U2 from U2br.com says the it is improvisation. The guy who recorded the clip, JR, is a French artist who helped them with the performance of Sunday Bloody Sunday earlier this year. I think they were just singing in French because he was there.
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Quite possible too.
 
Maybe this french stuff is from some obscure disco song from the 70's.

I think of disco when i hear this thing.
 
Headache in a Suitcase said:
That the instagram poster spoke a lot about being inspired by other artists in the process, I would think that the video is a bit more than just messing around. Will it be on the album? Who knows. But i think the video at least shows them trying things out for the album.
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Oh quite possibly, sure...by messing around I mean everything from a brand new improvisation to practicing something possibly for the album right before recording that very bit. But that particular take, with dude talking over it? (Because those mics pick up a pin drop! Lol) nah..that's not making it on the album I wouldn't think
 
April 1 would actually be amazing.

"No way, it's just a joke"

"Nobody is buying it, stop shitting around"

"bullshit!"


And then *album drops*

:panic:
 
Reg McGowan said:
"Cover Art and Videos are being worked on now..." This is BULL. I'll pay a round of Guiness to the person who will come up with source proof of that :applaud:
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I think it's an educated speculation. The guy that posted the video is an artist, why would U2 have this guy hanging around their studio sessions so much unless he was working with them? U2 is pretty strict about who they let in their sessions.
 
BVS said:
I think it's an educated speculation. The guy that posted the video is an artist, why would U2 have this guy hanging around their studio sessions so much unless he was working with them? U2 is pretty strict about who they let in their sessions.
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I was not refering to JR but to the Eric Alper post above. He claims Cover Art and Videos are being done right now.
 
Reg McGowan said:
I was not refering to JR but to the Eric Alper post above. He claims Cover Art and Videos are being done right now.
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I know, but you asked about a source. Well him, like everyone else talking about the album, source is the internet. He's just pulling bits of info from what we know and what we're speculating. At least he's not reporting on Slow Loris like other "journalists".
 
BVS said:
I know, but you asked about a source. Well him, like everyone else talking about the album, source is the internet. He's just pulling bits of info from what we know and what we're speculating. At least he's not reporting on Slow Loris like other "journalists".
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Agreed :up:
 
A couple pages back there was a post linking to a picture of a restaurant they were in and it looked like there were people with film gear. It seemed to me that they were filming something.

And would Bono really clean himself up if he wasn't about to be filmed and photographed a thousand times?
 
re: Beach clips
Magnificent was the exact same. I don't know how people could prefer the beach clip...
But Breathe was indeed different. Not hugely different but the structure of the song was different. "For Your Love" seems to be the forerunner to Stand Up Comedy, clearly different. I think the SUC 'riff' is in there but buried. NLOTH was an absolute mess of a recording and the song itself BARELY discernible. I think that's it.

The Unknown Caller clip with different chorus lyrics was from the trailer to the Lanois film.
 
Hollow Island said:
Even if U2 somehow managed to pull out a Get Lucky-sized hook -something they've never done before - it's virtually impossible that it would be even half as big as get lucky. Firstly, they're a rock band, and rock (particularly if it's not unbearably terrible) is marginal these days. Rock bands don't have giant hits. There are exceptions, but they prove the rule.

Secondly, U2 are in their mid-50s, have been around for over 30 years, and already have a substantial number of songs clogging up the airwaves. Bands of their age don't have hits. They're old, and once you're old you're considered irrelevant. There are exceptions, but again they prove the rule.

The only way to combat the perception of irrelevancy is to go about their work and make the best record they can. If the record is good, people will likely respond (as long as you're already popular). Look at Bowie: after years of striving to be hip (and making an unheralded masterpiece in Outside), he gave up and focused on making really good records, and people got behind him again.

I think that the best that U2 can hope for is something like "Where Are We Now?" which was a number one, a song people love, but not something your average teenager would know or care about. As he was in their youth, Bowie should be U2's role model for how to go about their art. They should go about their business with dignified confidence and worry about nothing aside from making the best songs possible. That's unlikely though, because these days it seems like they're not satisfied with themselves unless 10 million people buy their record. This band would never have recorded the Unforgettable Fire, and without that there never would have been a Joshua Tree.
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This band did record UF and JT, and very much wanted the world to hear it.

Though yes, they're old. Too old for worldwide domination, but not too old to change it up once again (with a new producer). I don't know...what do circa 50 year old bands do in the way of hits in US ? Pearl Jam is nearing 50, and the song Sirens gets a lot of talk.

As much as the "as long as it's good, people will come" talk is nice, it doesn't cut it if you don't draw the audience someway. Single, unusual release tactic, a live promo show playing most/all of the new album...

Why comparisons with solo acts when it comes to U2 ? Completely different game.
U2's peers are mostly retired, or faded into oblivion, or riding on nostalgia/past laurels. This is uncharted teritorry at this level.
 
Hollow Island said:
A couple pages back there was a post linking to a picture of a restaurant they were in and it looked like there were people with film gear. It seemed to me that they were filming something.

And would Bono really clean himself up if he wasn't about to be filmed and photographed a thousand times?
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Hollow, are you refering to the tweeted picture of the Milanos Bar ?

https://twitter.com/u2_news/status/385153501015597056/photo/1

All I see is some papparazzi trying to take a snapshot inside...and a hobbo looking in a trash bin :wink:

I doubt that they're shooting a video. If it was the case, info would have leaked already with tweets and pictures of film gear and crew (even a small one).
 
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I think For Your Love is the only beachclip I heard. It's the only one I recall, so perhaps the others just didn't impress me..
 
yeah Madonna did play a lot of MDNA on the tour- the problem was 95% of the audience had no idea what it was- the 5% of us that did would much rather have heard Material Girl and Into the Groove than Turn up the radio or Gimme all your lovin. When Madge tried to get people to sing along to the new stuff it didn't work very well

U2 play the hits because they know the reaction they get- hear 70,000 people singing ISHFWILF, Pride or Elevation is spine tingling- much as I'd love to hear Love is Blindness- I know that 95% of the audience won't have a clue what it is (see also reaction to Acrobat and Hold Me Thrill Me)- they're playing to the 95%- not us folk here
 
djparky said:
yeah Madonna did play a lot of MDNA on the tour- the problem was 95% of the audience had no idea what it was- the 5% of us that did would much rather have heard Material Girl and Into the Groove than Turn up the radio or Gimme all your lovin. When Madge tried to get people to sing along to the new stuff it didn't work very well

U2 play the hits because they know the reaction they get- hear 70,000 people singing ISHFWILF, Pride or Elevation is spine tingling- much as I'd love to hear Love is Blindness- I know that 95% of the audience won't have a clue what it is (see also reaction to Acrobat and Hold Me Thrill Me)- they're playing to the 95%- not us folk here
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I wish it was Acrobat..... you meant Ultra Violet I guess?
:D
 
djparky said:
much as I'd love to hear Love is Blindness- I know that 95% of the audience won't have a clue what it is (see also reaction to Acrobat and Hold Me Thrill Me)- they're playing to the 95%- not us folk here
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It's more likely that 95% of the audience at a U2 concert would know every song from one of the most celebrated albums of all time that just happens to be one of U2's most popular. These people are U2 fans, not a random selection of people teleported in from the street.

Knowing Achtung Baby isn't some exclusive thing...

When they played HMTM... on Pop Mart people went CRAZY.
 
Milano's is neither trendy nor in SoHo, as was reported, or even generally near Electric Lady... It's sorta just a dive, which makes it even more awesome that U2 just randomly popped in there..

... but also make me suspicious that it wasn't random. I mean there's a million bars between where Electric Lady is and where Milano's is... they just randomly strolled up to that one? And walked through NYU with nobody noticing? Fishy.
 
Hollow Island said:
It's more likely that 95% of the audience at a U2 concert would know every song from one of the most celebrated albums of all time that just happens to be one of U2's most popular. These people are U2 fans, not a random selection of people teleported in from the street.

Knowing Achtung Baby isn't some exclusive thing...
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You're dating yourself. The album was 20 years at the time, many of the younger u2 audience(especially casual fans) don't buy albums, so no many would not know LIB.

Hollow Island said:
When they played HMTM... on Pop Mart people went CRAZY.
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People went crazy for a song that was a current hit? That is so weird...
 
Headache in a Suitcase said:
Milano's is neither trendy nor in SoHo, as was reported, or even generally near Electric Lady... It's sorta just a dive, which makes it even more awesome that U2 just randomly popped in there..

... but also make me suspicious that it wasn't random. I mean there's a million bars between where Electric Lady is and where Milano's is... they just randomly strolled up to that one? And walked through NYU with nobody noticing? Fishy.
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You got an interesting point there...but then again U2 can go wherever they please and under the radar. They can hop in a rented car and drive anywhere. Maybe a place that was recommended to them, who knows...

If some Die-Hard fan happens to be walking by and witnessing the foursome then they would snap a picture and post it on the net. Which is what the dude did with that picture of Milanos.
 
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BVS said:
You're dating yourself. The album was 20 years at the time, many of the younger u2 audience(especially casual fans) don't buy albums, so no many would not know LIB.


People went crazy for a song that was a current hit? That is so weird...
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I think that enough people willing to shell out $100 for a concert have heard at least an album or two, and Achtung is one of those albums. I don't know why so many people here thing that U2 fans are essentially unfamiliar with their work. It's really, really strange. People still listen to albums. You can say what you like about "young people", but there still are people who are into music like they were 20 years ago.

Supposing that U2 fans don't know their albums, U2's fanbase has degraded dramatically. I don't buy that for a second, though. It's just that people here like to condescend to those not part of this club. When U2 played Electric Co and Out of Control, people went crazy. I think that the fanbase is probably more familiar with Achtung Baby than Boy, though I think that U2 fans probably know most of their material. If a stadium blinks stupidly to Song X From Massive Album, then that suggests that U2 don't have as many fans in a given city as they think they do. Though I don't think that's the case.

If I may draw a comparison to Depeche Mode, they played an acoustic version of Home. It was a single, but may as well not have been. It's on an album that is neither recent nor their most popular. But the crowd absolutely loved it. They knew it, and they loved it. There is no reason that a U2 crowd wouldn't react the same way to a song on their defining album. They also played a remix version of Halo. Not a single, and it's from 1990. But the crowd went insane. Even though it was a different version, they knew it. Know why? Because it's on Depche's biggest record. They weren't quite as into A Pain That I'm Used To, and that might be because they were not as familiar with it or just because it's not as good. But they still went mad. And the audience seemed quite a bit younger than U2's. So if Depeche Mode fans know songs from across their career then there's no reason to think U2 fans don't as well. Unless U2 have shitty fans, or they play places that are so big that their fans are drowned out by people who are just going based on U2's reputation and hearing a few songs on the radio over the last 30 years.
 
Hollow Island said:
People still listen to albums. You can say what you like about "young people", but there still are people who are into music like they were 20 years ago.
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You're replying to a guy that told me albums were dying several years ago.
Sorry, BVS, still not dead.

Leaving the digital albums aside, according to Billboard, 50% of the music industries revenues in 2012 still came from physical copies.

People still buy CD's. And as long as there is money to be made, they'll still make them and place emphasis on them. And considering the general format of everything else from DVD to Video Games to general storage of pictures and all the rest, is still the CD, it's not going anywhere. But especially with more universal-type players.

It's just that the people that don't buy CD's anymore or don't listen to albums anymore believe everyone must be like them. But especially those 30 and 40 somethings that are so eager to show how modern and totally 'not old' they are. "Nobody buys CD's anymore". Yeah, except that they do. And certainly they still buy and listen to albums digitally or otherwise. But especially serious music listeners and we are never going away.

I'll stand up for the album, always.
 
Hollow Island said:
I think that enough people willing to shell out $100 for a concert have heard at least an album or two, and Achtung is one of those albums. I don't know why so many people here thing that U2 fans are essentially unfamiliar with their work. It's really, really strange. People still listen to albums. You can say what you like about "young people", but there still are people who are into music like they were 20 years ago. Supposing that U2 fans don't know their albums, U2's fanbase has degraded dramatically. I don't buy that for a second, though. It's just that people here like to condescend to those not part of this club. When U2 played Electric Co and Out of Control, people went crazy. I think that the fanbase is probably more familiar with Achtung Baby than Boy, though I think that U2 fans probably know most of their material. If a stadium blinks stupidly to Song X From Massive Album, then that suggests that U2 don't have as many fans in a given city as they think they do. Though I don't think that's the case. If I may draw a comparison to Depeche Mode, they played an acoustic version of Home. It was a single, but may as well not have been. It's on an album that is neither recent nor their most popular. But the crowd absolutely loved it. They knew it, and they loved it. There is no reason that a U2 crowd wouldn't react the same way to a song on their defining album. They also played a remix version of Halo. Not a single, and it's from 1990. But the crowd went insane. Even though it was a different version, they knew it. Know why? Because it's on Depche's biggest record. They weren't quite as into A Pain That I'm Used To, and that might be because they were not as familiar with it or just because it's not as good. But they still went mad. And the audience seemed quite a bit younger than U2's. So if Depeche Mode fans know songs from across their career then there's no reason to think U2 fans don't as well. Unless U2 have shitty fans, or they play places that are so big that their fans are drowned out by people who are just going based on U2's reputation and hearing a few songs on the radio over the last 30 years.
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Hats off to you, again.
 
Hollow Island said:
I think that enough people willing to shell out $100 for a concert have heard at least an album or two, and Achtung is one of those albums. I don't know why so many people here thing that U2 fans are essentially unfamiliar with their work. It's really, really strange. People still listen to albums.
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No one here is arguing that U2 fans don't essentially know their work, I don't know why you have to take every comment and argue the extreme.

But U2 is one of those bands, like it or not, that have a lot of casual fans. Period. They exist, and a lot of them. Today's casual fan will not know the whole AB album.

I would go to a Rolling Stones concert in a heartbeat, but I would definitely be a casual fan.

I consider myself a one-step above casual Bruce Springsteen fan, can't wait to see him some day, but there's a lot of material that I wouldn't know. I know maybe two of his albums all the way through, the rest I know are his "hits". I found his material post Human Touch difficult to get into and too much to try. Yes, we exist.
 
BVS said:
No one here is arguing that U2 fans don't essentially know their work, I don't know why you have to take every comment and argue the extreme.

But U2 is one of those bands, like it or not, that have a lot of casual fans. Period. They exist, and a lot of them. Today's casual fan will not know the whole AB album.
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Agreed. In fact, I'd say the majority of people at any given 360 concert were "casual" fans. In fact, most fans of any kind of mass pop-culture product are so-called casuals.

And with regard to ticket prices, I read a study a while back that essentially said the more you charge for a popular performance product (I believe the context of the article was movies and theatre), the less "die-hard" fans the audience is composed of. I certainly think this has been true of tours by bands like the Rolling Stones. U2's not there yet (you could still get a 360 ticket for pretty cheap), but should U2 choose to tour arenas next time, however, all bets are off.
 
mama cass said:
honestly, i couldn't make out a whole lot from those beach clips - i actually have no memory of them apart from the waves and talking!
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The talking was the worst.

Seriously, why would you talk over that? It's like at the movies, whatever you have to say can wait.
 
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