US 2008 Presidential Campaign/Debate Discussion Thread - Part III - Page 7

coemgen · 12-12-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by phillyfan26

Uh, dude. He said he wasn't backing off the statement. So, yes, not only does he believe it, he has told people about his belief, this year.

I'm kind of jumping in here, but to me I understood it as he wouldn't retract the statement. I think that was the word used. In otherwords, he felt he was making the right statement at the time. I also could've sworn he said he wouldn't do that today.

That said, I'm not voting for him. (Nor do I think we should isolate AIDS patients.)

phillyfan26 · 12-12-2007, 09:35 PM

No, he said that if he said the same thing today, he'd probably "rephrase" it. That means he'd say the same thing with kinder, gentler words.

martha · 12-12-2007, 10:34 PM

I can only hope that if this Huckabee guy actually manages to get himself nominated, that sensible Americans everywhere will snap fucking out of it and vote against him.

verte76 · 12-13-2007, 08:07 AM

I'm really angry that the DeMoines Register excluded Kucinich from the Iowa debate. Everyone on my progressive listserver is angry and calling the newspaper. They're including a Republican who isn't even on the Iowa ballot, so it's a double standard. It's just not fair. This pisses me off.

verte76 · 12-13-2007, 08:12 AM

I'm afraid that people won't vote for Hillary just because she's a woman and Obama just because he's black. Some people think Gore lost votes with a Jewish running mate. I never thought that much about it but they could be right.

verte76 · 12-13-2007, 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by phillyfan26

Uh, dude. He said he wasn't backing off the statement. So, yes, not only does he believe it, he has told people about his belief, this year.

He still does believe this? Horrors. I hope this keeps people from voting for him. This guy scares the hell out of me. Even Bush doesn't want to isolate AIDS patients.

Irvine511 · 12-13-2007, 10:18 AM

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Originally posted by yolland
^ That would likely be softpedaled for a general election campaign, though. The way candidates pitch themselves to 'the base' during the primaries is often quite different from their general election pitch.

but Huckabee has little else to offer. just a charming personality.

he's a total naif on foreign policy.

hence, the Dems rubbing their hands over an "easy kill."

U2democrat · 12-13-2007, 11:46 AM

Christmas with Mike Gravel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0SQusLdlpE

Infinity · 12-13-2007, 02:12 PM

Shit > Huckabee

**Diemen** · 12-13-2007, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by Infinitum98
Shit > Huckabee

Mature. How about presenting an intelligent argument instead?

Infinity · 12-13-2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by Diemen

Mature. How about presenting an intelligent argument instead?

I've done that.

**Diemen** · 12-13-2007, 04:48 PM

Then how about keeping to that instead of stooping to just being plain rude. It makes your position look weaker if you have to resort to base name calling.

Moonlit_Angel · 12-13-2007, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by martha
I can only hope that if this Huckabee guy actually manages to get himself nominated, that sensible Americans everywhere will snap fucking out of it and vote against him.

I hope so, too. I'm sure not going to cast a vote for the guy, I can tell you that much.

verte, I'm glad to see some people are calling and complaining about Kucinich being denied the chance to participate in the debate. You're right, given who they do allow, it really doesn't make any sense. It's not fair.

Angela

Infinity · 12-13-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by Diemen
Then how about keeping to that instead of stooping to just being plain rude. It makes your position look weaker if you have to resort to base name calling.

I said that in anger, thats all. Of course it is not a rational argument. If someone were to challenge my position and ask my why I think Huckabee is bad, and if I were to say that he is bad cause he's shitty. Then of course that wouldn't work. But I just said what I said in anger, it was not meant to be taken seriously. And a lot of my posts are actual arguments, it is not like I do this only.

coemgen · 12-13-2007, 07:54 PM

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/pol...a.adviser.iptv

Obama is the man! Check out his little joke at Hilary.

Canadiens1131 · 12-14-2007, 09:35 AM

Fred Thompson is expected to drop out of the race in the next few days. His campaign site's forums are being shuttered, and there is a "major announcement" coming from the campaign in the next couple days.

BVS · 12-14-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by Canadiens1160
Fred Thompson is expected to drop out of the race in the next few days. His campaign site's forums are being shuttered, and there is a "major announcement" coming from the campaign in the next couple days.

Not suprised. I was suprised that anyone even thought he had a chance.

diamond · 12-14-2007, 01:22 PM

Who will he endorse?

dbs

Irvine511 · 12-14-2007, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by diamond
Who will he endorse?

but i thought you said that Fred was going to beat the bitch in the general election?

diamond · 12-14-2007, 01:26 PM

the law of attrition.

12-12-2007, 09:35 PM	#122
phillyfan26 Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 30,343 Local Time: 09:13 AM	No, he said that if he said the same thing today, he'd probably "rephrase" it. That means he'd say the same thing with kinder, gentler words. __________________

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12-12-2007, 10:34 PM	#123
martha Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orange County and all over the goddamn place Posts: 42,555 Local Time: 07:13 AM	I can only hope that if this Huckabee guy actually manages to get himself nominated, that sensible Americans everywhere will snap fucking out of it and vote against him.

12-13-2007, 08:07 AM	#124
verte76 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: May 2002 Location: hoping for changes Posts: 23,331 Local Time: 02:13 PM	I'm really angry that the DeMoines Register excluded Kucinich from the Iowa debate. Everyone on my progressive listserver is angry and calling the newspaper. They're including a Republican who isn't even on the Iowa ballot, so it's a double standard. It's just not fair. This pisses me off.

12-13-2007, 08:12 AM	#125
verte76 Blue Crack Addict Join Date: May 2002 Location: hoping for changes Posts: 23,331 Local Time: 02:13 PM	I'm afraid that people won't vote for Hillary just because she's a woman and Obama just because he's black. Some people think Gore lost votes with a Jewish running mate. I never thought that much about it but they could be right.

12-13-2007, 02:12 PM	#129
Infinity Refugee Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,188 Local Time: 07:13 AM	Shit > Huckabee

12-13-2007, 04:48 PM	#132
Diemen Resident Photo Buff Forum Moderator Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Somewhere in middle America Posts: 13,663 Local Time: 09:13 AM	Then how about keeping to that instead of stooping to just being plain rude. It makes your position look weaker if you have to resort to base name calling.

12-13-2007, 07:54 PM	#135
coemgen Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Black and White Town Posts: 3,962 Local Time: 09:13 AM	http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/pol...a.adviser.iptv Obama is the man! Check out his little joke at Hilary.

12-14-2007, 09:35 AM	#136
Canadiens1131 ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 10,363 Local Time: 10:13 AM	Fred Thompson is expected to drop out of the race in the next few days. His campaign site's forums are being shuttered, and there is a "major announcement" coming from the campaign in the next couple days.

12-14-2007, 01:22 PM	#138
diamond ONE love, blood, life Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tempe, Az USA Posts: 12,856 Local Time: 07:13 AM	Who will he endorse? dbs