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Old 03-21-2010, 01:06 PM   #381
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How come Clinton ... are heros and got a free pass from public view,but not Tiger?
You mean that whole impeachment thing?

BTW those texts were all sorts of skank. I'm sure hers weren't exactly G rated, either.
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Old 03-21-2010, 01:16 PM   #382
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His fooling around with Jennifer Flower came out during the 92 election and he won the election anyway.I guess playing saxophone on Arsenio Hall helped on the public eyes.Has for the "Oral office" days with Monica,i don't see him with huge scars on his face or reputation,either.

Heck,Hillary is 10x more hated than him...go figure.
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BTW those texts were all sorts of skank. I'm sure hers weren't exactly G rated, either.
Yeah really. Funny how only his texts are published.
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His fooling around with Jennifer Flower came out during the 92 election and he won the election anyway.I guess playing saxophone on Arsenio Hall helped on the public eyes.Has for the oral office days with Monica,i don't see him with huge scars on his face or reputation,either.
He was one of only 2 presidents to be impeached. How is that not a scar on his reputation?
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I dunno. I guess a lot of people just assume politicians are sneaky cheaters anyway. Heck, a lot of people assume sports stars are, too.

Maybe it's racism, maybe it's because Tiger had a squeaky clean public image before all of this, maybe it's just how much more hungry our society has gotten about salacious gossip. I do think it's ridiculously overblown.

As for Clinton, I don't think it's a fair comparison at this point, because it's been 15 years since that all went down. I'm sure the media/public will have quite different feelings about Tiger's situation 15 years from now, if they even think of it at all.
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How come Clinton and Letterman are heros and got a free pass from public view,but not Tiger?

....BTW,the answer is written between the lines.
Apples to oranges, and I disagree that Clinton got a free pass. That's absurd.

The nation knew both Clinton and Letterman much more than they knew Tiger. Tiger's spent fifteen years essentially making himself a mystery. All anyone knew was that he worked crazy hard at golf and married a Swedish chick. That was it. Nothing else. He was a control freak.

The press then jumped on the opportunity to finally get a new angle on one of the world's most recognizable figures for the first time in fifteen years. Tiger's commitment to his personal privacy was ironically the reason he's taken such a great "fall."
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I dunno. I guess a lot of people just assume politicians are sneaky cheaters anyway. Heck, a lot of people assume sports stars are, too.

Maybe it's racism, maybe it's because Tiger had a squeaky clean public image before all of this, maybe it's just how much more hungry our society has gotten about salacious gossip. I do think it's ridiculously overblown.

As for Clinton, I don't think it's a fair comparison at this point, because it's been 15 years since that all went down. I'm sure the media/public will have quite different feelings about Tiger's situation 15 years from now, if they even think of it at all.
I think that the color of Tiger's skin is a big part of not getting the free pass that the other 2 got.

And i haven't mention JFK,another one who couldn't keep his penis in his pants,but still regards today has a hero....like Clinton and Lettterman,white skin.
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re: Clinton - you're overlooking a lot. Yeah, 15 years later, his reputation seems to be okay, but you can't ignore the shitstorm that went down back then and say he got off scott free.
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I think that the color of Tiger's skin is a big part of not getting the free pass that the other 2 got.

And i haven't mention JFK,another one who couldn't keep his penis in his pants,but still regards today has a hero....like Clinton and Lettterman,white skin.
Clinton didn't get a free pass. What's wrong with you?
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re: Clinton - you're overlooking a lot. Yeah, 15 years later, his reputation seems to be okay, but you can't ignore the shitstorm that went down back then and say he got off scott free.
Besides the Late nights TV shows jokes,Clinton came out just fine....compare to Tiger.
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You are still completely missing the point. Talk to me in 15 years and see how Tiger's reputation is doing.

No one here is disputing that racism isn't a factor. You are just refusing to let go of Clinton as an example to prove your point.
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Like i said on a post earlier,he had a sex scandal that came up during the 92 election,He even had to go on 60 minutes with his wife beside him .....That was 4-5 months before election day not 15 years.He still won.
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Maybe that just says more about George Bush Sr, that people were willing to overlook infidelity rather than 4 more years of the incumbent.

The situations are still different, for a variety of reasons. Again, no one is saying racism isn't a factor, we're just saying that it's not a good comparison.
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Well,thats a point of view.
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" EA Sports outdid themselves this time"

Can't find the part with Tiger, Clinton , Letterman & others at the sex addicts rehab.
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i haven't watched SP in forever. it went on air w/this language?
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I think that the color of Tiger's skin is a big part of not getting the free pass that the other 2 got.

And i haven't mention JFK,another one who couldn't keep his penis in his pants,but still regards today has a hero....like Clinton and Lettterman,white skin.
Nobody seems to have a bad thing to say about Wilt Chamberlain, and he supposedly bedded over 20,000 women; and Charles Barkley is doing fine in the public eye after his little run in with the law after a DUI/hooker filled evening.
And Magic Johnson is still held in high public regard after his escapades.
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I think that the color of Tiger's skin is a big part of not getting the free pass that the other 2 got.

And i haven't mention JFK,another one who couldn't keep his penis in his pants,but still regards today has a hero....like Clinton and Lettterman,white skin.
tiger woods is an absolute control freak who let nobody into his private life. he presented the outward model of perfection.

also it was the way in which things broke that led to this becoming a public obsession... the stories that tiger woods was cheating on his wife were already in the tabloids and blogs before it became headline news.

it was after the wacky car crash that it got the mainstream media's attention. if the crash had never happened, the stories would have stayed in the tabloids, maybe getting up to TMZ and Perez status, an occasional brush with the mainstream media, and that's that. when there are news coppers over his house saying that he might be in critical condition from a car crash, but then it turns out he only hit a tree at 5 miles per hour... well, the media's gonna wanna know why.


thirdly... david letterman got killed in the press when the stories first broke. why has it gone away? he's out there on TV every day and responded to the allegations, and even cracks jokes about himself on his own show. hard to kill a guy who's killing himself. tiger woods still won't let anyone in or tell anyone any details... which is his right to do, but unfortunatly the media won't let it go until he spills his guts, or until somebody else's problems become a bigger story (helllloooooooo sandra bullock)

additionaly... there are any number of celebs, both white and black, who have had run ins with the law and either got dragged across the coals or were let to coast. nobody says much about michael jordan's infidelities. why? michael jordan was pretty much a giant douchebag... but he was nice with the media and gave them unlimited access. he and ahmad rashad were boys.

at around the same time that hugh grant got caught picking up a prostitute, eddie murphy got caught picking up a tranny. grant got killed, murphy pretty much skated it and is still making disney movies. where is your race card now?


and your comments about bill clinton getting a pass are just silly. clinton was fucking impeched, and his presidency will forever be tainted by that. the single most important thing to a president after he leaves office is his legacy. that's getting a pass?


lastly... tiger woods will be playing in the masters, and he will get every endorsement he lost back as long as he continues to win.

kobe bryant got accused of rape, and he got all his endorsements back and is more popular now than ever.
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Nobody seems to have a bad thing to say about Wilt Chamberlain, and he supposedly bedded over 20,000 women; and Charles Barkley is doing fine in the public eye after his little run in with the law after a DUI/hooker filled evening.
And Magic Johnson is still held in high public regard after his escapades.
Yeah, but none of those guys are half-asian. Blacks and Whites can be unfaithful and no one cares - worst that could happen is some sort of public grilling on National TV where a Prosecutor asks about where you stick your cigars. But if you're Asian, man....look out! They're gonna take your endorsements and force you to continue living in some multi million dollar mansions somewhere. Granted, they'll most likely give you those endorsements back, but still. No one took Clinton's endorsements. Racists.
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