Zooropa effects (esp. delay)

[fuhuchs]

Which effects are used for zooropa?
And does anybody have the correct delay settings, especially for the intro. I tried to find out about it on the net, but i just can't get the sound right.
I use a POD HD 500, which allows delays used in a parallel or chained order (or both if necessary).

 

[breathe]

Off the top of my head Wah and delay.

 

[fuhuchs]

Yea, maybe an autowah would do the job. But still, the delay settings are kind of driving me crazy...

 

[Edge_Orchestra]

Someone on the U2 Rec Yahoo Group asked Dallas. The response was Wah and SDD3000.

You can see him using the wah pedal when playing it live.

 

[breathe]

What is the delay tine?

 

[Edge_Orchestra]

What is the delay tine?

I haven't tried it. One of the guys on U2 Recording posted the following:

I use the following effects on my multi FX unit:

Vox Wah 848 ( I guess any wah will do)
Tube screamer ( drive set to 4.5)
Phaser ( realy low in the mix, you can barely hear it but it gives a nice touch to the sound)
Multihead delay set to 468 MS with 7 or 8 strong repeats.( according to Jeff S. you can use 2 delays in serial to achieve the delay effect)
Some plate reverb.

All that goes into the AC30 (mine is a Fender mustang modeling amp)

The guitar i used is a Les paul goldtop with the bridge pickup selected, modeled on a Line 6 Variax.


AND The Jeff referred to above posted this:

All you have to do is use two delays, a wah, and a phaser or flanger.
Pump 8th notes on the wah. Presto.

Jeff

All of THAT said -- Again, from what I've heard it's wah and SDD3000 (perhaps set to 458ms, as mentioned above)

 

[breathe]

Is it in Eb? 360

 

[Edge_Orchestra]

Is it in Eb? 360

Don't know off the top of my head. Experiment. Try it out. Try standard tuning. If that doesn't work, try E-flat.

 

[breathe]

Is city of blinding lights e flat? if it is then zooropa should be to. I read some where that city is in E flat.

 

[Edge_Orchestra]

Is city of blinding lights e flat? if it is then zooropa should be to. I read some where that city is in E flat.

I think COBL is E-flat. Both are on the same guitar. I'd have to check myself but I'm at work. But I encourage you to experiment. You will find that you can learn more and faster by experimenting.

 

[theedgeu2]

But I encourage you to experiment. You will find that you can learn more and faster by experimenting.

I can't agree more with this! Experiment! Toggle with settings and tunings and whatnot. Have fun with it! And don't be afraid to mess up.

 

[PhilsFan]

It's definitely in Eb, as is the album version.

 

[Rockhound252]

I think that edge use two delays...

 

[Edge_Orchestra]

I think that edge use two delays...

Highly possible. And mentioned in my previous post.

I haven't tried it. One of the guys on U2 Recording posted the following:

I use the following effects on my multi FX unit:

Vox Wah 848 ( I guess any wah will do)
Tube screamer ( drive set to 4.5)
Phaser ( realy low in the mix, you can barely hear it but it gives a nice touch to the sound)
Multihead delay set to 468 MS with 7 or 8 strong repeats.( according to Jeff S. you can use 2 delays in serial to achieve the delay effect)
Some plate reverb.

All that goes into the AC30 (mine is a Fender mustang modeling amp)

The guitar i used is a Les paul goldtop with the bridge pickup selected, modeled on a Line 6 Variax.


AND The Jeff referred to above posted this:

All you have to do is use two delays, a wah, and a phaser or flanger.
Pump 8th notes on the wah. Presto.

Jeff

All of THAT said -- Again, from what I've heard it's wah and SDD3000 (perhaps set to 458ms, as mentioned above)

 

[Rockhound252]

Yes i didnt read that post xdxd

 

[Edge_Orchestra]

Yes i didnt read that post xdxd

No worries. It happens.

I haven't tried the double-delay. In fact, I've not tried to play "Zooropa" at all.

I will have to give that a go. I have always had a deep appreciation of "Zooropa" (the song/and album)

 

[Rockhound252]

I playes with 430 aprpx and 350ms secon delay

 

[Edge_Orchestra]

I playes with 430 aprpx and 350ms secon delay

Record a video clip? Be cool to see how to do it.

 

[theedgeu2]

Anyone who owns an M13 try the Stereo Delay for Zooropa? I'll have to have a go at that. I have no working Wah at the moment so I'll have to look for one. All mine does is make a bunch of noise and suck tone.

 

[breathe]

Anyone who owns an M13 try the Stereo Delay for Zooropa? I'll have to have a go at that. I have no working Wah at the moment so I'll have to look for one. All mine does is make a bunch of noise and suck tone.

When you get it post a vid!

 

[fuhuchs]

Here is a first attempt of covering the intro of Zooropa. Recorded with a POD HD500.
I haven't got a video camera, so I tried just made a chart of the effects I used. I'm not sure about the picture quality, so I hope you can read it.

‪Cover of U2's Zooropa (intro) with POD HD500‬‏ - YouTube

I kind of struggled with pumping 8th notes on the Wah, so my timing here isn't always the best... sorry.
So what do you think? It sounds OK to me for now, but it doesn't quite nail it if you now what I mean.
Any suggestions what to improve?

 

[theedgeu2]

Here is a first attempt of covering the intro of Zooropa. Recorded with a POD HD500.
I haven't got a video camera, so I tried just made a chart of the effects I used. I'm not sure about the picture quality, so I hope you can read it.

‪Cover of U2's Zooropa (intro) with POD HD500‬‏ - YouTube

I kind of struggled with pumping 8th notes on the Wah, so my timing here isn't always the best... sorry.
So what do you think? It sounds OK to me for now, but it doesn't quite nail it if you now what I mean.
Any suggestions what to improve?

Wow that doesn't sound bad at all! Nicely done. I don't know what to suggest or if I even have any suggestions.

 

[Edge_Orchestra]

Delays still sound a bit off. A little more tweaking and you should be set.

 

[breathe]

I can't figure out how to play that part of the song where everything goes crazy the "don't worry babba" part if u know how please pm me.

 

[Rockhound252]

Sounds good. What delay times do you use?

 

[PhilsFan]

I can't figure out how to play that part of the song where everything goes crazy the "don't worry babba" part if u know how please pm me.

On this tour he's playing an arpeggio of this for a lot of that part:

E ---15---
B ---16---
G ---15---
D ---13---
A ----------
E ----------

 

[fuhuchs]

@ Rockhound252:

I used a splitted signal path after the wah and tube screamer:

First path is the dry signal.

Second path has two delays:
delay 1: 1/8th (315ms@95bpm), 1 repeat, 100%mix (this is important, the dry signal of the second signal path is at 0%), delay 1 goes into...
delay 2: 1/16th (157ms), 6-7 repeats, about 75 % mix

First and second path then go into the VOX AC30 model.

 

[eventide]

You can get the phasor sound from the A3 and also the trem sound for the outro can be achieved with the A3.

 

[breathe]

Zooropa (Guitar).mov - YouTube


trying different sounds. Thats the best i can do. Any recommendations? Which sounds better with the reverb on the Boss or on the Vox.

 

[breathe]

Anyone.....E_O maybe?