rjhbonovox
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bcrt2000 said:my brother always skips zoo station on AB
WHAT!!!!! How in the hell can anyone skip Zoo Station, that is one mofo of an awesome track. He must be insane.
bcrt2000 said:my brother always skips zoo station on AB
rjhbonovox said:If only Edge would get out his wah wah and fuzz effects again for gods sake.
Zoocoustic said:Looking back to 1991, I think there are so very many parallels between this album and AB...
We waited and waited and waited, and finally we get this masterpiece of an album...and make no mistake, this is clearly a masterpiece.
ultraviolet7 said:
I really don't think that "parallels" between AB and HTDAAB will guarantee that the latter will become a classic. Especially when these parallels start off from the subjectivity of establishing that both albums are masterpieces, a category AB has reached with absolute justice but HTDAAB isn't anywhere near of, in my view.
rjhbonovox said:Achtung Baby, which musically is on a totally different level, is very misplaced judgement.
Dalton said:Some of you might not be old enough to remember, but Actung Baby is what it is today because of the tour. It got good reviews at first, but it became legendary because of the live spectacle that went along with it.
Here's hoping U2 do that this time. i am hoping that is what is taking them longer.
Murray said:ALL BECAUSE OF YOU - DULL?!?!?!!?
CITY OF BLINDING LIGHTS - DULL??????!!!!!!??????
CRUMBS FROM YOUR TABLE - DULL?!?!?!
You need to give this album a few more listens!!!
ponkine said:
Achtung baby was radical, different, innovative, brand new, etc, etc
I´m a musician, I can clearly realise when an album is plenty filler ( like this one ) talking in terms of music composition, this album is really nothing to worry about. With these singsong releases the band have sold out, sadly
ponkine said:
A close friend said me a while ago "how easy is to be U2 nowadays, they´ve many millions of blinded and brianwashed fans. I don´t know why they don´t realise how bad and gone are U2 now. They acclaim EVERY U2 product, I mean, EVERY. Ýet still there´re some fans who think Best of 1990 - 2000 was great !"
So now it´s time to put on the table some things and stopping this unnecessary and annoying adoration. Given that situation the band are resting on their laurels, as a fan pointed out.
U2 can be drinking and smoking with their apple tunes friends, and then updating their same sounds again and again, because they know there will be a lot of fans thinking "CLASSIC U2 IS BACK !!!!"
neutral said:
ponkine, I was just reading one of your other posts where you say you respect every fan´s opinion here, and you say you don't want to offend. It's a little hard to tell when you repeatedly refer to fans of certain albums as deaf, blinded and brianwashed, annoying, etc etc etc. I know you're upset with the band right now and with the new material but please try to discuss that without making it personal. Flaming and name calling isn't welcome here (and that goes for everyone).
neutral said:
ponkine, I was just reading one of your other posts where you say you respect every fan´s opinion here, and you say you don't want to offend. It's a little hard to tell when you repeatedly refer to fans of certain albums as deaf, blinded and brianwashed, annoying, etc etc etc. I know you're upset with the band right now and with the new material but please try to discuss that without making it personal. Flaming and name calling isn't welcome here (and that goes for everyone).
ponkine said:
Yes I´ve noticed that my friend, sorry folks if I offended someone here I was upset, really
I´ll try to do unpersonal, I´m going to talk just about the music, right ?
Dalton said:
Neutral, I am offended by the picture in your avatar. I thought everyone knew that the rumor about the sheep was completely untrue.......
ponkine said:
Yes I´ve noticed that my friend, sorry folks if I offended someone here I was upset, really
I´ll try to do unpersonal, I´m going to talk just about the music, right ?
Ok, let´s compare Achtung Baby with HTDAAB
Overall: what gripped me Achtung Baby was its musical nature, I mean, I was listening to a whole new U2, and that was out-of-body. The music is memorable, as a high reference point on the U2´s career. Don´t forget their created their truly BEST music after many negative and even destructive critics for they "Rattle & Hum", and they made a "Rattle & Hum" when critics were the best one for them with their "Joshua Tree". Achtung baby is Irrespective of its legacy.
Overall: what bothered me about HTDAAB what its unfulfilling hype intended. Nobody though ( talking about their Marketing team ) about how easily forgettable it is, how bad it sound when aging U2 try to find a new "With Or Without You", "Where The Streets Have No Name", etc. The outcome is annoying and pityful.
The music is common knowledge because we already had ATYCLB.
There´s so much from ATYCLB here that´s really annoying.
what´s the nature of this album ?... CASH.
Now song by song:
1- Zoo Station v/s Vertigo: No words needed. Zoo Station
2- EBTTRT v/s Miracle Drug: I can´t vote for that With or Without You ripped off ( if you don´t believe me, try to play it, at least during the first verses they used the same chords ). EBTTRT.
3- One v/s Sometimes: No words needed. I can´t vote for the new Celine Dion´s "My Heart Will Go On". I can´t support a man who uses his father´s death to make money. Shameful
4- UTEOTW v/s Love And Peace: This voting is getting obvious, but it´s the truth my friends. UTEOTW is far better.
5- WGRYWH v/s City Of Blinding Lights: for the first time, we have a competition here. I´ll be nice, City Of Blinding Lights.
6- So Cruel v/s All Because Of You: you know which song is better. So Cruel
7- The Fly v/s A man And A Woman: nobody say A Man is better. By miles, The Fly wins.
8- Mysterious Ways v/s Crums For Your Table. While HTDAAB is going down and down by showing its monotony, Acthung Baby still have so much to show us. Mysterious Ways by far.
9- TTYAATW v/s One Step Closer: No competition, TTYAATW by far.
10- Ultraviolet v/s Original Of The Species: While Ultraviolet is a musical standpoint, Original Of The Species goes nowhere with all those unhelpful chords and changes. Ultraviolet
11- Yahweh v/s Acrobat: Do I have to say it ?. Acrobat
12- Love Is Blindness v/s Fast Cars: Without this song, Achtung Baby would be less substantial, because it´s their most outstanding ending for the album. Fast Cars could have been far better, but it´s just a half-finished song. Love Is Blindness.
HTDAAB won´t be a classic, it´s too little if you compare with the real classic U2, sorry folks
ponkine said:I´m a musician, I can clearly realise when an album is plenty filler ( like this one ) talking in terms of music composition, this album is really nothing to worry about. With these singsong releases the band have sold out, sadly
A close friend said me a while ago "how easy is to be U2 nowadays, they´ve many millions of blinded and brianwashed fans. I don´t know why they don´t realise how bad and gone are U2 now. They acclaim EVERY U2 product, I mean, EVERY. Ýet still there´re some fans who think Best of 1990 - 2000 was great !"
Sadly she´s right. That´s painful, really.
U2 can be drinking and smoking with their apple tunes friends, and then updating their same sounds again and again, because they know there will be a lot of fans thinking "CLASSIC U2 IS BACK !!!!"
... but on the other hand we´ll find fans who still love EVERY U2 action, no matter how bad it is.
Pero said:It is true that Achtung is by far better than HTDAAB
roy said:
Is that your opinion or are you speaking for the entire world?
U2_Guy said:
He's speaking for me.