Sorry, I can't live on the board 24/7. What you view as flip-flopping, shady business, corruption from past bankruptcies, Trump U pales in comparison to the potential bombshells hidden in the 33k emails deleted 2 days before a congressional subpoena, the implications of possible international pay for play deals through the CGI while Hillary was SoS. The jury of the electorate rendered their judgment upon what scandals they could swallow.
Right now the media is inspecting a mole hill of Trump improprieties, while the mountains of the server, CGI, Benghazi loom in the background horizon.
Oh, don't pull that "I can't be on here 24/7" line. You know exactly what we mean when we're asking you to try and address Trump's issues.
Pay for play? A few posters here shared articles in previous pages where it seems like Trump was involved in that very sort of thing himself.
Trump supporters here got on Clinton about her foundation getting donations from people from messed up countries, and yet Trump's businesses are connected to some of those very same areas.
Clinton's foundation has been proven to do much good work in the world. You cannot say the same about Trump's foundation, which seemed to exist only to serve...Trump. Last I checked, it wasn't Clinton who used her foundation to get herself a huge, fancy self-portrait. And Clinton didn't set up a university that turned out to be a giant scam.
Flip-flopping: So does Trump know and have a good relationship with Putin or not? Is he going to pursue charges against Hillary or not? Is he going to build his wall or not? Did he support the Iraq War or didn't he?
Everything with Clinton's server and Benghazi were investigated
to death. By
Republican-led investigation committees, no less. And yet they found NOTHING to indict her on. At worst, she was shown to be careless and inattentive with the e-mails. So either Republicans are being easily brought off by Clinton and her buddies, which I would think should be rather troubling for any Republican supporters on this board...
...or they're the ones who ultimately made a molehill out of that stuff. Didn't one of the people investigating Clinton on...Benghazi, I think it was, accidentally seem to admit to that whole thing basically being a witch hunt?
And then there's all the stuff Diemen just listed that I'd love to see addressed at some point and time, too.
Trump wanted to be involved in politics. He wanted to run for president, and got it. Therefore, he's going to be subjected to the exact same scrutiny that every other politician has been put through, and rightly so. And there's plenty about his past to be deeply troubled by. Yet somehow he gets a pass from Trump supporters, while they sit there and gleefully rake Clinton over the coals for things she did, or which they think she "supposedly" did.
Every politician has baggage and skeletons in the closet.
Yes, they do. And to my observations, Clinton's baggage was about as typical as it gets. I didn't really see where she was somehow SO MUCH WORSE than the vast majority of politicians out there with the crap in her past. She's far from perfect, you'll get no argument from me on that, and there are some things that I think were worthy of valid concern with her. I
have discussed the things I didn't agree with her on in here before.
Yet somehow her stuff was made into this big deal and there was this weirdly intense pathological
hatred for her from some people out there, while Trump supporters continued to ignore all the shit surrounding him and brush it off as nothing.
That makes no sense whatsoever.
And setting aside all the scandals and questionable activities, Clinton actually has legit experience in politics. She would know EXACTLY what to expect if she became president. She's prepared, she's knowledgeable about a ridiculous amount of topics and issues.
Trump has openly shown ZERO understanding or knowledge of the job he's about to take on. How in the world does that not give you serious pause? How does that not bother you? How do you think you can justify someone with complete ignorance of the job they're about to do winning over somebody who actually would know what they're doing? We're not talking about some high school kid getting their first job at Burger King here, we're talking about
being president of the United States. And call me crazy, but I want somebody in that job who actually knows what the hell they're doing.
Here's just a few:
-Conflicts of interest between Trump's international business ties and role as President. And "the laws are on my side" doesn't address the actual conflicts of interest.
-Selecting a prominent alt-right racist as chief strategist.
-Selecting an attorney general who was previously denied a federal judgeship (largely by his Republican colleagues) due to a history of racist comments.
-Selecting a secretary of education who believes in creationism and who has no experience in education.
-Selecting a SecDef who is openly Islamophobic and was fired from his previous job for incompetence.
-Selecting a prominent climate change denier as the head of the EPA transition team.
-read the excerpts of his transcript with the Times that were posted in this thread. Nothing of concern there?
I'd also add Trump's insulting a Gold Star family and picking a fight with the father of a deceased soldier. Doesn't instill much confidence in his ability to support our troops during rough times, I wouldn't think.
And I'd also love to hear any Trump supporters here try and explain allowing a man who spent years questioning Obama's birthplace/birth certificate and starting up that birther bullshit follow Obama into the White House. How can anyone defend or justify that?