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Sicy said:
Ok I am loving realitysteve. I figure at this point I'll read whatever. He's so spot on too on how lame and corny this show is.

� RealitySteve.com – My sarcastic, slanted, sophomoric, and skewed view on the world of reality television

Spoiler in the second to last paragraph.
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Yep, he's got major spoilers but he's got all the dirt - if people are interested in what happened with Ali, they should check out his entry on that. Apparently, the phone call was all staged and encouraged by ABC.
 
Good lord, I cant wait to go read realitysteve. Rozlyn is completely full of shit. It was so obvious she was lying and trying to put blame on everyone else to take the attention off of her whore ass. What a bitch! When she first got kicked off I thought maybe I would give her the benefit of the doubt but after tonight its so obvious she’s full of shit.

And why do I have this feeling he doesnt marry either of them.
 
I couldn't believe Rozlyn. :rolleyes:

I have that feeling about him not marrying either of them as well. Can't he just continue to date them and/or Ali or anyone on the show if he chooses? Or is that in his contract that he can't :shrug:
 
The hard evidence on Rozalyn was not there

it seemed mostly like the other women just got together and rushed to a judgment

her room mate said she got up and could not find her, :shrug:

that is not conclusive of her having sex with the guy

the show is set up for the bachelor to spend the night in the fantasy suite with 3 different women

who's the real whore here? and the big pimp daddy? that was great when Rozalyn asked Jeff about hitting on the guy's wife

Rozalyn had a good point that she signed a release that they could film them 24/7
I would assume that they have hidden cameras
A person would not believe they could get away with very much monkey business
 
Four grown women are not going on national TV and say they saw Rozlyn in compromising positions if it weren't true. The evidence would be the firing of the producer. I don't think they would fire someone (and a friend at that) for no reason unless they had some kind of evidence. You could just tell by her face and reactions that she was lying. The girls that told us what they saw or heard I feel are way more genuine than Rozlyn in my opinion. You'd believe Rozlyn over Ella? And her constantly trying to shift scandalous stuff on everyone else but her is manipulative and typical of someone trying to cover up something they did. There was no reason for her to bring up anything Chris Harrison has supposedly done. It's not about him. She was just trying to take the focus off of her. I know the show has a way of making you believe things they want you to believe but I'm just really having a hard time believing her.
 
Jeff?

The parts of it that I could see while trying to watch the Olympics too...yes, that would be a stretch to believe that all of the other women are in on the plot too. And what she said to Chris Harrison just shows her lack of class. I don't believe her either. Is the producer married?

I wouldn't exactly call the women "whores" for going in that fantasy suite if that's what they want to do. Me personally-no freaking way. But if they're whores then Jake is an even bigger whore comparatively speaking-they're only sleeping with one guy. The whole situation is just gross to me, the whole test drive aspect of it.
 
I meant Jake was more whore-like than Rozalyn
We know he test drove 3.

And Jeff and The Bachelor were/ are his pimps.

As for Rozalyn, the most we can say is she was perhaps a little flirty.

She may have spent some time with that prodecer, but no one said they ever saw anything, except the two girls that lied.

Lied? Well sure, when they left the show and gave interviews., they were asked about Rozalyn, they both said, they didn't see anything.

The show had a problem with this producer, he may have been hanging around with Roz, too much. So they cut him and took out Roz at the same time.

and there is this
: Bachelor's Valishia: I "Feel Bad" I Told Rozlyn I Didn't Believe Her
Tuesday – February 23, 2010 – 11:38am

ShareThisFormer Bachelor contestant Valishia Savage tells UsMagazine.com she regrets selling out former roommate Rozlyn Papa on Monday's Women Tell All special.

On the special, three women stepped forward to say they saw Rozlyn, 29, getting physical with producer Ryan Callahan. Valishia, 32, said she always believed that Rozlyn and the producer were just friends until she woke up one morning at 4 a.m. and Rozlyn wasn't in her bed. "I always wanted to think the best," Valishia told Rozlyn, "but I don't think I believe you anymore."


Valishia now tells Us that she spoke against Rozlyn because, while filming Women Tell All, "I heard everyone else's stories, and I kind of felt a little bombarded by producers and people who tried to sway me to that side.

"Still, to this day, I never saw anything that made me think it was a sexual relationship. Never," Valishia tells Us. "And I was the closest to her -- I was her roommate! I had the same producer she had come visit me at my house. If anything, he was very forward and flirtatious."
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They obviously ginned this thing up for ratings

would Roz go on the show if she thought they might be able to spring some hidden camera stuff of her in a real compromising position?
 
Wow, I'm not surprised reading all of this. Sounds to me like some inter office gossip and drama the show has irresponsibly decided to air publicly. See, they will do anything to make a buck. The more drama and intrigue, the more viewership and media/press, the more money in the coffers for the show's moguls. And that's not quality entertainment in my opinion. I'm tired of the same old BS being shown on these kinds of shows. They aren't "Reality" shows, come on :doh:
 
I think I posted that I expected that

it is almost a replay from Deanna / Jake season

I guess they needed Rozalyn in the villain role, like that guitar playin playboy last season,
we had/have all the guys/gals confront villain on the "tell all" episode.
 
Do we really need to know that the guy is well endowed? Overshare.


A new celebrity sex tape is being shopped around the porn community -- and the person peddling the tape says the star is Rozlyn Papa from "The Bachelor."

TMZ has learned the tape is being shopped to a variety of XXX companies all over all over L.A. -- including LiveJasmin.com

We spoke to Kevin Blatt, a rep from the website, who tells us he saw the tape and "it's definitely Rozlyn."

Blatt claims the tape features Rozlyn performing "one sexual act with a well-endowed gentleman."

A rep for Papa tells TMZ the reality star has, "no knowledge of any tape."
 
I'm listening to it now, I'm only like 20 min. in. Dont know if I'll get through the whole thing though. I'll probably have to take breaks lol.

So far she's again denying that anything at all happened between her and the producer. That they became good friends when they came to film her every day life type stuff before she went on the show.

An interesting thing she just said was they have these rooms, the producer rooms, with pictures of all the girls and a 'story' underneath each pic and under hers it said 'This seasons Wes?' So she's basically saying they planned this from the beginning. She is saying that he had feelings for her and felt that he couldnt 'produce' her anymore because of it.
 
They're talking about when she got booted off the show. Her words.. Two hours before Chris Harrison told her she had to leave, some of the girls came up to her and told her that the producers told them that Rozlyn was trying to hide her son from Jake. Well they then went to Rozlyn to warn her about this because apparently they all knew that Rozlyn wasnt hiding anything regarding her son since she always showed them pictures, and talked about him, etc. She then flew off the handle and pitched a fit with the producers because she did not want to be made to look bad like this on the show, like she was lying about her son or whatever. She had been promised that her son could even fly out (but the Dad didnt sign the release).

Then a couple hours later Chris Harrison came to tell her that she was getting kicked off because she entered in an 'inappropriate' relationship with the producer. She said she did not think he was implying that it was sexual. The producer had let her use his cell phone on occasions to call her son, he mailed cards to her son and even stamped them (which he is not supposed to do) and things of that nature for her. She said this is why she didnt really say anything because she said she didnt want to get the producer in trouble.

This is like one big soap opera.
 
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