I'd like to see any evidence that the majority of "Little San Francisco" here was in favor of immediate withdrawal (regardless of the conditions) from Iraq or Afghanistan as you seem to imply, Sting.
Time to back up your strawmen.
In January 2007, Barack Obama came up with his plan for Iraq. It involved immediately withdrawing
ALL 15 US Combat Brigades in Iraq at that time by
March 31, 2008, regardless of conditions on the ground. Obama explained that the US military could not make any difference in what had become a "Civil War" and it was time for the United States to "end its involvement in a war that should have never have been fought".
He opposed the surge strategy in January 2007 which is the exact opposite of the strategy he proposed which was a unilateral withdrawal of troops without any regard for conditions on the ground.
Throughout 2007, Barack Obama supported multiple attempts by Congress to force the President into immediately starting a withdrawal without ANY regard to conditions on the ground. Conditions on the ground did not matter because in the view of Barack Obama and his democratic friends at the time, the United States was basically powerless to significantly effect conditions on the ground. Iraq was "a civil War" and the only thing that United States could do in 2007 was get out as quick as possible.
Now, I think it would be safe to say that the vast majority of people here in FYM agreed with Barack Obama on this issue back in 2007 with regards to Iraq. They supported Barack Obama's plan and congressional efforts to force the President to begin withdrawing troops PERIOD. No regard for conditions! None of the Democratic congressional bills on funding for the troops tied any of the withdrawal demands to any sort of conditions. The majority of people in here supported that, even though it was definitely the wrong policy.
Years, later, we see that the 2007 surge worked far better then even those that developed the strategy imagined it could. Even Barack Obama was forced to admit in the final months of 2008, that the surge strategy that he had so vigioursly opposed had indeed worked. Only irrational nut cases like Michael Moore still claim otherwise.
On Afghanistan, I've never claimed that the majority in here favored any sort of withdrawal from Afghanistan. In fact, my whole point with regards to Afghanistan is that FYM has been strangely silent on the matter. No significant reactions for or against.