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while I'm an intelligent person,
Of all the intelligent people I know, not one has ever had to put it in writing. Or even cared to for that matter.
while I'm an intelligent person,
It looks like the "Sunday Bloody Sunday" filmed last friday is for this:
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Of all the intelligent people I know, not one has ever had to put it in writing. Or even cared to for that matter.
I was actually quoting (well, partially quoting) Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men. Most of the intelligent people I know have seen that movie.
(Okay, not really. But I will freely bitch about the bitching. )
If Chris Martin ends up appearing on the album, I'm going to take a long break from this site to avoid all the inevitable nonstop bitching and moaning.
(Okay, not really. But I will freely bitch about the bitching. )
fwiw..I don't think Elevation was the weakest, but in retrospect, "removed" as you call it, and with a healthy dose of objectivity, it wasn't the strongest either. I think a great many of the perceptions of that tour are shaped by the admittedly very strong and powerful emotions of a. Bono's dads death, and b. 9-11. And these are very valid emotional responses that took the tour and the vibe surrounding it, to another level. And, if I'm completely honest for a sec, there was alot of shit going on in my life that ATYCLB/Elevation tour spoke very powerfully to. So there's the "personal" aspect that causes me to really love that tour. But strictly objectively? It wasn't the strongest. But I love it.
Chris? How about Rihanna?
I loved the shows I went to as well, and never implied that these were subpar. With a band as great in the live format as U2 is, "weakest" is still damned good.
But yes, I think it's these external (read: unrelated to the band and their performances) forces which gave it extra resonance for people, especially in the U.S.
I'm only speaking from memory, but it was my recollection during Vertigo that people seemed to notice improvement--not only with something as obvious as Bono's voice, but in the song section. namkcuR can trot out Elevation highlights (of which there were some for sure), but on Vertigo people were getting The Electric Company, Gloria, The Ocean, The First Time, and Miss Sarajevo. And unlike the previous three tours, songs from every U2 album plus Passengers were played.
Let's not get totally crazy here.
With a band as great in the live format as U2 is, "weakest" is still damned good.
I loved the shows I went to as well, and never implied that these were subpar. With a band as great in the live format as U2 is, "weakest" is still damned good.
But yes, I think it's these external (read: unrelated to the band and their performances) forces which gave it extra resonance for people, especially in the U.S.
I'm only speaking from memory, but it was my recollection during Vertigo that people seemed to notice improvement--not only with something as obvious as Bono's voice, but in the song section. namkcuR can trot out Elevation highlights (of which there were some for sure), but on Vertigo people were getting The Electric Company, Gloria, The Ocean, The First Time, and Miss Sarajevo. And unlike the previous three tours, songs from every U2 album plus Passengers were played.
Laz just meant in his original point that Elevation was among the "worst" tours of a superb live history.
I really hope the next tour is stripped down more. Even if they do outdoor shows, use a somewhat simpler stage. We don't need a claw or ginormous video screen. In my eyes, when an act puts on that much of a spectacle for a stage show, it implies that they have less confidence in the music, and a band can only shine the brightest if they're confident.
I also agree on song selection. While the attempt at 11 o'clock on (early) Elevation was admirable, it fell abysmally short of any of its previous live incarnations and was mercifully short lived, compared to the Vertigo equivalent Electric Co. which generally kicked ass and actually breathed new life into the the tune. Other examples are there but song for song performance by performance, Vertigo was probably a better quality show
Holy shit. The Fly. Vertigo The Fly all the way!
(still haven't heard a 360 version).
The Electric Company
Just out of curiosity, outside of Bono's voice, did you feel that the rest of the band's performances of 11OTT on Elevation fell short as well? Or is it mainly Bono?
This I can I agree with. Perhaps the definitive version. Although every live version of that song - from the ZooTV original to the Elevation version with the intro and Bono singing the whole chorus to this blistering Vertigo version, there's something special about all of them(still haven't heard a 360 version). What a song.
You need to change that. It's basically a perfected version of Vertigo's The Fly.
I think all the live versions of The Fly have been great. The song holds up well and has been remarkably resilient (though didn't one of them say they thought the song was date?)
The Vertigo Zoo Station though...awful. It's one of the few live versions of a U2 song that I cringe at, which is a pity b/c it's one of my favourites and I was psyched to hear they were playing it...until I heard it.
I agree, and it's pretty much entirely Larry's fault.The Vertigo Zoo Station though...awful. It's one of the few live versions of a U2 song that I cringe at, which is a pity b/c it's one of my favourites and I was psyched to hear they were playing it...until I heard it.
Really? It's probably not as good as the ZooTV versions, but I thought it was still good.
I agree, and it's pretty much entirely Larry's fault.
I think we continue to see (and, `need`) a big video screen.
Elevation was cool with the screens that would rise and fall.
U2 aint stupid: the people who want the up close and personal intimate experience are up front anyways, and lets face it for the people up front the screens since Popmart have been largely not a factor. You don`t see much. The bigger the screens, the more intimate the other 13,000 people in the arena get to feel with the band, and that helps the show.
The big screens stay. To be honest Im eager to see what new tech they roll out..Vertigo arena shows with the curtain were interesting, it seemed they didnt want anyone to the back of the stage to miss out. Do they aim for that again, or do they just section off a piece and put proper screens up and say to hell with selling those seats....or...do they use a cylindrical screen like 360 and play in the middle of the arena...