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I thought someone said both lines went in at once?
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tkramer said:
LOL! I suppose you are right, by way of Websters' dictionary. Actually, I did my definition by what I've seen on Ticketmaster, etc. Here is the def at ticketmaster, which is where I bought it:
badge1 said:I do not believe that U2 would be in agreement with this lottery system at all.... If we were to make our voices heard in an official manner, in the form of a petition from the head of the site and in conjunction with other sites, and made U2 aware of this, or their management, we can get this lottery system cancelled.
bobfrombob said:
After all the fury around the first presale, I can't imagine that U2 aren't 100% aware of the lottery system. I think there's no way this happens without their total knowledge, understanding and suport of it....... Which doesn't mean they can't change it if enough people complain but I'm sure the band is aware of it.
badge1 said:
Good Point, you are probably correct, but I still feel that based on the responses from this site, there is a strong probability that most longtime U2 fans are not in agreement with this system and feel that their are only con's and no pro's to it. It should be first come, first serve (ellipse if they want, or not, but up to them ). What if you get into the ellipse and don't want to enter ? Are you forced to go ? And it would be heartbreaking to want to enter and be denied based on chance. The advantage of the heart/ellipse is the freedom it gives you: generally it's not as crowded in there, so you can move/dance around, further, you get go get food, drinks, merchandise, go to the bathroom between sets ( opening act and U2) , etc.... and come back and be right back in the heart of the action, it really makes the whole concert experience that much better.
I firmly believe that if we get a petition going from multile fan sites, the lottery system will be scrapped.
Please post your thoughts.........
SoCalMusicLover said:
I've learned that Ticketbastard are like republicans, they will follow something when it works in their favor, but if you question them on any ambiguous policy, they'll just say, we didn't quite mean it that way.
Blue Room said:
Dear God not another petition!! Why is it everytime someone doesnt agree with one thing here its time for a petition??? Look, sometimes things dont work exactly how you want and are out of your control. The band, management and venue security have legitimate reasons they are doing this. Look at the insanity of people camping out over a day before the show. They dont want that occurring and it would have only become worse as the tour went on. It would have gone to the point of people literally waiting out there dayS before the show. This alleviates that problem completely. Is it perfect, no. Is it completely random, yes. Did it go smoothly yesterday? Appears it did, despite some doomsayers saying there would rioting. I think its here to stay for N. America at least. Europe could be different, there is no Ellipse on that stage set up. Just the normal corrals.
Honestly I dont care either way. Although I think camping out over a day before the show is completely ridiculous. It appears the band and their management agree.
Hallelujah Here She Comes said:
I understand your point about the petition and, even though I don't like this system I'm not going to have a cow about it. But I sincerely doubt this system is going to stop people from lining up early. If someone wants the best spot they can get, they're still going to line up early. In the likely event that you don't get into the ellipse, lining up still guarantees you an excellent spot outside the ellipse (if you don't get into it) that you might not have gotten if you hadn't lined up. In fact, on the last tour I knew several people who lined up early with the express intent of going for the "tip" of the heart- the motivation of those people will be unaffected by the random lottery to determine admission to the ellipse. And if you do get in, lining up guarantees you the best spot on the inside. And if someone's crazy enough to camp out overnight to get a good spot, they're going to at least want the chance to get the best spot.
As an example, this system actually kind of makes me want to get there earlier than when I was planning. My goal was pretty much just to get into the oval and, if it were first come first served, I wouldn't have had to arrive all that early to do that, since 400 people fit into it. But now that it's more likely than not that I won't get in, I'd rather guarantee myself a prime spot outside the ellipse. So I'd better get there early, just in case. You can think I'm crazy for doing this, but the bottom line is people who care about their spot are going to care about it whether there's a "lottery" or not.
It's hard to tell what effect exactly this system is going to have. We'll have to see how it goes with the next few shows to get a better idea. But I really think there will still be people who will line up, and I think they'll get there pretty much as early as they would have otherwise.
Honestly, I think this policy is much more about getting different people into the ellipse at different shows and not seeing the same faces every night. Which is a perfectly legitimate goal, but if their intent really was to prevent the crazy lines, this was not a good system to choose.
Blue Room said:
Actually, I think your last paragraph about different faces is part of it as well.
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Johnovox said:I prefer the new system. It should have been communicated prior to San Diego but we all know about it now. There should be less complaints going forward.
U2 is trying to be fair and the only thing they are taking away is the fact that the same 20 people are always in the front row.