Justin24 said:Contradicting myself???????? Does it seem that way to you. Guess what they took a person freedom away so take there away and execute them for the crime of Murder.
Justin24 said:Philly I just want to tell you that I hope we can remain friends even though we have opposing views.
In May 1887, his eldest brother Alexander Ulyanov was hanged for participation in a plot (bomb attack) threatening the life of Tsar Alexander III. This radicalized Lenin. His official Soviet biographies have this event as central to his revolutionary exploits. A famous painting by Belousov, We will follow a different path, reprinted in millions of Soviet textbooks, depicted young Lenin and his mother grieving the loss of his elder brother. The phrase "We will follow a different path" meant that Lenin chose a Marxist approach for a popular revolution, instead of anarchistic, individualistic methods.
Justin24 said:Contradicting myself???????? Does it seem that way to you.
phillyfan26 said:Here is Diemen's post in its entirety if you haven't gone back to read it:
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I'll spare you the rest of your contradictions, but I have this question: If, as you say, a life sentence is still a form of execution, then how on Earth could I possibly be soft on crime if I support life sentences?
Justin24 said:Well I don't believe I contradict myself
Why not he took someone elses. I am not trying to play god.
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He played God HE TOOK SOMEONE'S LIFE!!!!!!!!!!
Justin24 said:
Because this form of Execution is not suffering more like a crappy cruise.
And if blood is on my hands because a Murderer is executed then so be it. I will answer for it.
Justin24 said:There stuck in Jail like being at see with no where to go.
namkcuR said:
If someone is murdered, their family and friends will be devestated. If SOMEONE is murdered. That means not only the victim of the crime, but the murderer as well when he is put to death by the state. A person who commits murder still has a mother and father and brother and sister of their own. If you take away those peoples' son/daughter and brother/sister, you are punishing them. And THEY are innocent people. THEY did nothing wrong. EVERY time someone is executed by the state, innocent people are being punished because somewhere, that murderer's mother is crying just as hard as the murderer's victim's mother is crying. THAT is not ok. If you stick the murderer in prison for the rest of his/her life, then at least the mother, who did NOTHING wrong, can still see her son/daughter. I don't have a kid, but if I did, and that kid was murdered, I'd tell the court not to put the murderer to death, because that murderer might have a father who loves him somewhere(not always, but sometimes), and I wouldn't want to wish anyone the pain I've just experienced. I know some of you will say I will change my mind when I do have kids of my own, but I don't think I will. And what if the murderer has a son/daugher? There is NO justification for taking an innocent kid's parent away. There's no justification for a murderer doing it, and there's no justification for the state doing it. NONE.
When you execute a criminal, you are putting THEIR family through unneccessary pain, you are NEVER making the family of the victim feel any better, and you NEVER deterring other criminals.
Justin24 said:SO I give a comparison and I am being lame???
Justin24 said:Ok then I don't want to see people complain when we have to build more jails than schools. Or how about since you are all against the Death Penalty we find a deserted Island and put them there. Kind of like Lost
Diemen said:Your statement is pathetic, and if you can't see the difference between a bad cruise and life in prison, then you don't know what you're talking about at this point.
Lifers hardly have amenities just like a cruise. Oh yes, they can use the bathroom, or even a gym or basketball court. But the big thing you seem to be forgetting here is that they have absolutely no freedom. Their life is dictated to them on someone else's terms. What they can and cannot do is determined by someone else. What and where they eat is determined by someone else. How they spend their day is determined by someone else.
And they don't get to go back to to their regular lives after a while (like you would on a cruise). This is their life for the rest of their days. They get no time-outs, no vacations, no days off from this. Every day for the rest of lives is spent in the confines of prison, with no chance of ever getting out again, no chance of ever knowing a regular day of freedom to choose what they want to do, spend a day with friends or family, go to a park, lounge around the living room with friends, etc.
But you're right. It's just like a cruise.
Justin24 said:Since you probably live by ancient manuscripts if it told you to that execution is ok then I am sure you would be for it.
martha said:
Where do you get these lines? Is someone writing them for you?
Justin24 said:You get your thinking of not taking ones life because he took someone elses from the Bible. But if it said it was permissable then you would.
martha said:
Yes. Life in prison compared to a cruise!?!? That's a stupid thing to say, and it's shit like that that makes absolutely no one give any credence to anything you say anymore. You rant on, saying crap like that, not really answering anybody, making no sense at all....
martha said:
You know I'm not a Christian, don't you? And your original ridiculous assmption was directed and Dieman, not me.