BoMac
Self-righteous bullshitter
You're not so bad, Vlad.
So if Trump calls the wall a "fence" - and the US pays for this fence - then you are okay with it?They are not the same. I was wondering if you didn't get that or if you were just a liar.
Recent or past? And what is your definition of a white supremacist? Anyone who voted for Trump?Shall we tally up all the incidents of white supremacist violence against minorities? Do you really think that antifa even comes anywhere close?
I'm sure AEON thought that Nelson Mandela and his supporters were terrorists like antifa. After all, they were violent. And there was violence on BOTH SIDES.
With respect to the wall, I don't understand, AEON, why you'd make an idiot of yourself contorting into a pretzel arguing on behalf of a piece of shit like Trump. Really quite bizarre.
Why would you do that? I don't think anyone in here is tossing white supremacists and neo-Nazis in with "the right". Stop brushing people who lean one way with the same brush.Recent or past? And what is your definition of a white supremacist? Anyone who voted for Trump?
If I tossed antifa into the larger group we call the Left, which would include Bolsheviks, then it is a no brainer - since the Left murdered over 100 million people since 1917.
Isn't that the same reason the Klan claims to exist? And like the Klan, these "noble" protectors need to hide their faces...Indeed, that's exactly why they exist. Antifa aim to protect the vulnerable from those who seek to harm them.
So if Trump calls the wall a "fence" - and the US pays for this fence - then you are okay with it?
Why would you do that? I don't think anyone in here is tossing white supremacists and neo-Nazis in with "the right". Stop brushing people who lean one way with the same brush.
Still contorting...
How so? Did Bill Clinton not expand the wall/fence? Did Hillary Clinton not support the wall/fence as a senator and then as a presidential candidate? Are you suggesting that these candidates did not support securing our border with Mexico with physical "barriers"
Also, please review these clips again and point out where these two equate border security with racism:
They are only a problem for those who are/wish to protect fascists.
AgreedBorder security does not equal racism.
Disagree. Many people, especially college kids (antifa recruiting ground) have equated securing the border with Mexico as racist.No one has ever made that claim. You're dancing with a strawman.
AgreedBuilding a wall, and building your campaign around a wall doesn't make you a racist, -.
What are brown people? Who fears these brown people?(it's not your normal option on a job application). Are Mexicans "brown people" now?Using people's fear and building fear of brown people is racist.
Agreed. Who is doing that?Throwing all Mexicans into one basket regardless if citizen or not is racist.
Attempted? Nothing but net...Your attempt at equivalency is sad.
I wonder how peaceful and loving South Africa is these days...
I fail to see how antifa is not the Left's modern equivalent of the Klan.
Yes, indeed it has been suggested. The very concept of this unseen force of white privilege relies on this to be true. That white people, at a minimum, are passively racist.
I wonder how peaceful and loving South Africa is these days...
AEON, I'm half Mexican and have been told to go back to Mexico just because of the color of my skin. Funny, they don't tell me to go back to Scotland or Sweden, just Mexico. It is racism.
Trump began his campaign by calling Mexicans rapists, saying Mexico doesn't send it's best. He directly insulted MY Family who crossed to make a better life for themselves.
His election has brought white supremacy back into the mainstream. This is ALL because a segment of the US population is threatened that the minorities they have been oppressing since the founding of this country are standing up for themselves. They are threatened because these minorities are now demanding to be treated equally.
I get it, you're a white man. You have never had to live with people assuming you're the maid or nanny because of the color of your skin. You've never had to fear for your life when stopped by a police officer just because of the color of your skin. You've never been denied a job because your name doesn't sound white. You've never been denied a promotion because of your gender. But you cannot deny that this happens with regularity in the US.
If I tossed antifa into the larger group we call the Left, which would include Bolsheviks, then it is a no brainer - since the Left murdered over 100 million people since 1917.
Disagree. Many people, especially college kids (antifa recruiting ground) have equated securing the border with Mexico as racist.
There are many who fear others with different skin color, I mean they're rapists and killers.What are brown people? Who fears these brown people?(it's not your normal option on a job application). Are Mexicans "brown people" now?
Trump, I showed you several examples. You conveniently never responded.Agreed. Who is doing that?
And yes, it is sad to see so many claim that conservatives are racists for supporting the very same (and very reasonable) policies that both Clintons fervently endorsed and funded.
Border security does not equal racism.
No one has ever made that claim. You're dancing with a strawman.
Building a wall, and building your campaign around a wall doesn't make you a racist, it makes you an idiot. It shows you don't understand the issue. Chanting "build that wall" makes you even a bigger idiot and shows you know even less about the issue.
Using people's fear and building fear of brown people is racist. Throwing all Mexicans into one basket regardless if citizen or not is racist.
Your attempt at equivalency is sad.
Are you half Scottish or Swedish? Why would anyone assume you are from those two countries? Is there nationwide problem illegal immigration from Scotland or Sweden? And some context would be helpful...are white people randomly walking up to you and yelling, "Go back to Mexico!"AEON, I'm half Mexican and have been told to go back to Mexico just because of the color of my skin. Funny, they don't tell me to go back to Scotland or Sweden, just Mexico.
Did he really say all Mexicans are rapists? Or was he calling out the issue of prosecuting some illegal immigrants (for crimes not associated with their immigration - crimes any person should stand trial for) because of the Sanctuary Cities?Trump began his campaign by calling Mexicans rapists, saying Mexico doesn't send it's best. He directly insulted MY Family who crossed to make a better life for themselves.
No, the media is doing that.His election has brought white supremacy back into the mainstream.
I agree. Everyone is equal and the government should not endorse any sort of racial bias.This is ALL because a segment of the US population is threatened that the minorities they have been oppressing since the founding of this country are standing up for themselves. They are threatened because these minorities are now demanding to be treated equally.
True, I'm not regularly confused with a maid or nanny. However, it is assumed that I am privileged for being of European descent in a nation that (until recently) mostly populated by humans of European descent. Do you accuse Japanese of "Japanese Privilege" in Japan?I get it, you're a white man. You have never had to live with people assuming you're the maid or nanny because of the color of your skin.
Are the police randomly shooting "Mexicans" now? Where I live, most of the police are Latino.You've never had to fear for your life when stopped by a police officer just because of the color of your skin.
Are white men the only race and gender guilty of this particular bias?You've never been denied a job because your name doesn't sound white.
It is good to see that you still believe that genders do exist. Otherwise - if there is no gender, gender discrimination cannot exist.You've never been denied a promotion because of your gender.
I am glad that you agree that border security is not racist.We can all find videos of people saying stupid shit. .
"many" does not equal "most"There are many who fear others with different skin color,
All those who rape and murder should be prosecuted.I mean they're rapists and killers.
How is it different?But it's not the same policy. Stop lying, just stop. If you don't understand the difference in their policies and understanding, then don't comment
This is so fucking tiring.
I wonder how peaceful and loving South Africa is these days...
so now that you're taking us down this road, you're okay with us associating all the crimes of nazi germany, imperial japan, the pinochet regime and every other murderous fascist dictatorship of the 20th century with the american right wing, i presume?
I am glad that you agree that border security is not racist.
"many" does not equal "most"
All those who rape and murder should be prosecuted.
How is it different?
From Huffington Post article: Bill Clinton And Barack Obama Laid The Groundwork For Trump’s Immigration Policies
"To those who have been following deportation politics in this country, Trump’s policies, as they are now unfolding, have an eerie resonance. They seem to be growing directly out of policies first instituted in the presidencies of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. True, President Obama liked to talk about “our tradition of welcoming immigrants,” while our new president has tossed such liberal humanitarian rhetoric in the garbage can, instead playing up a harsh nativism. Still, the fact is that two Democratic presidents laid the groundwork for Trump’s developing policies.
It was, after all, President Clinton who oversaw the draconian “Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigration Responsibility Act” of 1996. It drastically increased all levels of immigration “enforcement,” expanding the Border Patrol, criminalizing numerous types of low-level immigration violations, and facilitating and expanding deportation procedures. (A similar emphasis on casting blame on individuals for structural and systemic problems was also at the heart of Clinton’s welfare reform of that same year."
Source: Bill Clinton And Barack Obama Laid The Groundwork For Trump’s Immigration Policies | HuffPost