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Old 01-14-2020, 10:00 PM   #261
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Nobody told Tom you're supposed to look at the interviewer and not the camera.
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Nobody told Tom you're supposed to look at the interviewer and not the camera.
i feel like i'm in a zoom meeting with the company accountant when he speaks
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joe biden is "looking forward to an economic debate" with an incumbent president in a good economy who is also donald trump.
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But Phillip was on a roll. Des Moines, she noted, is an “insurance town.” What will happen to the poor insurance company employees if “Medicare for All” replaces the private insurance industry?

To which Sanders replied: Well, the health insurance industry is ripping off the country. They’re gonna have to live with it. But they will be eligible for money from a “transition fund” offering up to five years of income, health care and job training for people who work for health insurance companies.

It was a reasonable response to a ridiculous question. No matter what the next president does about the American health care system, health insurers and health care providers are going to make less money. The health care crisis in America is a product of health insurance companies and health care providers ripping everybody off. You can’t fix that without sticking it to them.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cnn-botch...051240185.html

Amazing article overall, but I loved that point especially.
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https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/...754577409?s=19
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1...670228993?s=19
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/cnn-botch...051240185.html

Amazing article overall, but I loved that point especially.


I’m from Des Moines. The people there aren’t dumb, but if talking points starting coming out that people will lose their job if Bernie is President you’re going to get Trump. No matter what facts or truth can be used as counter points. I fear the same across the Midwest, East, and Southwest. Middle to upper middle class white folk aren’t going to want their taxes increased. They may decide that Trumps disaster politics sucks for women and minorities but since they’re not directly affected they can handle their income staying the same.

Des Moines has a very liberal (White) youth that’ll turn out for the caucus but don’t expect them to show for the general. Who will show up are all the rural small towns.
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No big deal. Just the POTUS, his personal lawyer, and a congressional candidate attempting to put a hit on a US ambassador
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It never happened, Warren is a liar

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Warren said Sanders disagreed with her view that a woman could win the presidential election. Sanders contends that he merely outlined what he said would be Trump's efforts to defeat another female candidate, and in the debate, he said, "Of course a woman can win."
Ok it happened just not the way she remembers it
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US Politics XVIII: the illegitimate partisan sham thread

Given how rapidly the Ukraine story changes, and how much more insane and bad for Trump it gets, I wish Nancy would hold those articles a little bit longer.

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“Fuck that bitch,” Hyde wrote on March 22, 2019. (Yovanovitch was highly regarded, and one of our very top diplomats.)

The next day he texted: “Wow. Can’t believe Trumo [sic] hasn’t fired this bitch. I’ll get right in that”

Then: “She under heavy protection outside Kiev”

Unidentified [probably Lev Parnas]: “I know crazy shit”

Hyde: “My guy thinks maybe FSB..?” [FSB is Russian security]

More exchanges of news stories about removing Yovanovitch.

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “What should I do with this?

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “They are moving her tomorrow

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “The guys over they asked me what I would like to do and what is in it for them”

Hyde: March 25, 2019: “Wake up Yankees man”

Hyde: March 25, 2019: “She’s talked to three people. Her phone is off. Computer is off.”

Hyde: March 25, 2019: “She’s next to the embassy”

Hyde: March 25, 2019: “Not in the embassy”

Hyde: March 25, 2019: “Private security. Been there since Thursday”

Likely Parnas: March 25, 2019 “Interesting”

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “They know she’s a political puppet”

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “They will let me know when she’s on the move”

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “And they’ll let me know when she’s on the move”

Unidentified [probably Lev Parnas]: March 25, 2019: “Perfect”

Hyde: March 25, 2019, “I mean where if they can find out.”

Hyde: March 25, 2019: “That address I sent you checks out”

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “It’s next to the embassy”

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “They are willing to help if we/you would like a price”

Hyde, March 25, 2019: “Guess you can do anything in the Ukraine with money… what I was told”

Unidentified [probably Lev Parnas]: “Lol”

Hyde: March 26, 2019: “Update she will not be moved special security unit upgraded force on the compound people are already aware of the situation my contacts are asking what is the next step because they cannot keep going to check people will start to ask questions”

Hyde: March 26, 2019: “If you want her out they need to make contact with security forces”

Hyde: March 26, 2019: “From Ukrainians”

Hyde: March 27, 2019: “What’s the word bro”

Hyde: March 27, 2019: “Any good stuff?

Unidentified [probably Lev Parnas]: March 27, 2019: “Call you soon in studio.”
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I’m hoping she’s moving forward because the more evidence that comes out the worse it looks on the GOP For covering it up.

But that Rudy letter was about as smoking of a gun you could get. Yet it won’t be allowed in the senate.

Also not allowing photographs or audio recording of the handing over of articles is yet another scratch off of democracy.

Pic or impeachment didn’t happen!!!
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Given how rapidly the Ukraine story changes, and how much more insane and bad for Trump it gets, I wish Nancy would hold those articles a little bit longer.


They were going to kill her
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He is looking increasingly unwell (and like he's spending too much time under a broiler while somebody bastes him like a Thanksgiving turkey). To say nothing of his mental state.
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They were going to kill her



“Fuck that bitch” is the new “lock her up.”

The subtext is now text.
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It never happened, Warren is a liar



Ok it happened just not the way she remembers it



It’s just the corporate democrats colluding with their corporate media shills to divide and conquer those that threaten their corporate power.
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Who knew that Russian politicians had more balls than Republicans.

The jury could also potentially consider

Hey, Putin just involuntarily resigned his entire government.
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it's really cool that some of the same people who last year defended joe biden and said i was being "divisive" when i criticized his conduct towards women are now in here going after bernie sanders over some hearsay that he maybe expressed a disappointing opinion in a private meeting on whether a woman can win.
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it's really cool that some of the same people who last year defended joe biden and said i was being "divisive" when i criticized his conduct towards women are now in here going after bernie sanders over some hearsay that he maybe expressed a disappointing opinion in a private meeting on whether a woman can win.


i think Bernie may well believe that it's difficult if not impossible for a woman to win, given the tenor and nature of many of his supporters and their overlap with Trump supporters (the ones he thinks he can win over in the general election). i'm sure he's well aware that he -- and Trump -- benefited from the misogyny that makes it difficult for many Americans to see a woman as a president.

given the evidence we have -- the 2016 election, Bernie's own "bros", the fact that there has never been a female president -- Bernie might be right. just because Bernie has put his finger on a problem with the electorate doesn't mean he approves of it. i'm sure he's sad that he doesn't believe a woman can win a presidential election. just because it's unfortunate doesn't mean it isn't true.

as for hearsay -- it's not. it's Warren's story. she was obviously there -- just because she's a woman doesn't make her story "hearsay." and given her refusal to shake his hand last night, she's clearly mad about something.

have no idea what this has to do with Biden sniffing hair or whatever.
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love the implication that i'm dismissing this as hearsay "just because she's a woman".

a person is claiming that someone said something in private and there is no physical evidence either way to prove whether that thing was actually said. that is the literal definition of hearsay. the fact that "it's warren's story" and that she's upset about something isn't evidence or proof of anything.
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