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Old 11-08-2007, 04:10 PM   #681
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Men and women are different- we should celebrate those differences and stop trying to forcefully fuse them together.
So, either you are saying that leaders don't have to be strong or you are saying that women shouldn't be president.

Which one is it?

And don't say I'm twisting your words, because this is all based on your criticisms of Hilary.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:11 PM   #682
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Strong and abarsive are too entirely different traits.

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How do you find her abrasive? I mean, specifically, where do you see abrasiveness in her?
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:26 PM   #684
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Who needs polls when you have diamondbruno wisdom on your side?

or lots of Jack Daniels... same conclusions.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:34 PM   #685
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Gender has nothing to do with it-although men get more of a pass for being abrasive for cultural reasons it could be construed.
If it has nothing to do with it then don't mention it and continue with the ISSUES. Try rising above cultural construes and search for the truth.

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I have noticed though based on your posts that you seem like one miserale fellow, BVS-especially with the over usage of this smiley:
You can judge my mood in real life based on :smilies: ? Well then I guess I can judge your overall intellect and insecurity issues based on your posts?
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:25 PM   #686
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*Reads recent posts*

Wha...? *Blinks repeatedly*

Any guy who has an issue with Hilary simply because she's *Gasp* strong and forceful needs to get over it, quite frankly. If you don't agree with her on the issues, that's entirely different and makes much more sense (and I'd be inclined to agree with you there). But to not like her simply because she doesn't take crap from people and doesn't back away from expressing her thoughts and is actually as tough as the guys can be (how dare a woman not act like a stereotypical female!), well...

Once again, some people have their priorities in a really odd order.

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Gender has nothing to do with it-although men get more of a pass for being abrasive for cultural reasons it could be construed.

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Aren't you contradicting yourself? It seems to me if men get more of a pass for being abrasive, than the way people perceive Hillary Clinton has a lot to do with her being a woman.
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Aren't you contradicting yourself? It seems to me if men get more of a pass for being abrasive, than the way people perceive Hillary Clinton has a lot to do with her being a woman.
No need for logic in this thread.
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wake up and smell the coffee and as soon as you stop trying to make men women, and women men, you're life will become easier.

Men and women are different- we should celebrate those differences and stop trying to forcefully fuse them together.
Wow thanks for the helpful advice Ann Landers Why don't you wake up into this century? Your idol Bono knows all about female equality-he gets it. Live it, learn it . It has nothing to do with trying to make men women and women men.

All your comments about the male candidates seem to have to do with their hair and/or their perceived good looks and/or sexual prowess

What is it exactly about Hillary that seems so threatening to you? Because she's not like Laura Bush? Women are individuals, not step in line robots. Just like men are.
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Men and women are different- we should celebrate those differences and stop trying to forcefully fuse them together.



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How are they different?
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so what's going to happen when Dobson endorses Huckabee?
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I thought of this thread when I read this in a column today by Ellen Goodman.

As a recent Catalyst survey of corporate leaders said, women are "damned if they do and doomed if they don't" meet the expectations of gender stereotypes. Linguistics professor Deborah Tannen describes the fate of achieving women this way: "Our image of a politician, a leader, a manager, anyone in authority, is still at odds with our expectations of a woman. To the extent that a woman is feminine, she's seen as weak. To the extent that she puts it aside and is forceful, aggressive, and decisive, she's not seen as a good woman."

How ironic that some qualities some people admire in someone like GWB, well they just seem to be a huge problem if any woman possesses them-well at the very least any Democratic woman.
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Ellen Goodman is spot on-sad, but true. You do raise an interesting question as well-if a Republican woman were running, how would people handle her should she be as tough as Hilary?

Honestly, I don't care if someone's male or female, Democrat or Republican, whatever, I'm not going to get on them simply for having a strong will. That trait alone isn't a bad thing to have (it's something I wish I had more of). It's what they do with that strong will that matters most to me.

As for your other post, by the way, MrsSpringsteen-rock on . Very well said.

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I wonder how long after 2008 will it take before there's a minority that runs on the Repbublican ticket?
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How ironic that some qualities some people admire in someone like GWB, well they just seem to be a huge problem if any woman possesses them-well at the very least any Democratic woman. [/B]


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How are they different?
If your really need an explanation I would consult your physician.



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Please don't tell me you are basing your opinions on someone's physical appearance.
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If your really need an explanation I would consult your physician.



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So you've just basically screwed your whole argument by this comment... basically you are saying that the only differences are physical.

That makes everything else you said just sexist tripe.

Congrats

You've back up what we've all known for years...
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Nice try Einstein.

Even a family Dr will tell that men and women are wired differently emotionally.

And genetically speaking you're wired closer to a woman than most men.

good day.


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