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Old 12-05-2016, 10:03 PM   #141
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Ok, he finally came around to denouncing that endorsement, I'll give you that. Thank you, I wanted you to back something up.

Hilarious that you're talking about "safe spaces" when you just elected a man that cries about an SNL skit, lol.

Once again, I never said anything about this election being about race. You guys are going to have to get away from this all or nothing mentality.

Ok, I get your point about jobs, though your understanding of our current economy is abysmal.

But what does Trump's plan do for us in the long term? He keeps some blue collar jobs, product prices go up, innovation slows, and then what? There is no long term sustainability.

There is no "turning around" it's turning backwards, and then what?


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•Lowering taxes puts more money in the pockets of the average folk. If you make under 40k a year, you will not pay a dime in federal income taxes. His tax plan is very favorable to the middle class and lower class especially.
•Cutting regulations will help small businesses, who have been hammered the last 8 years.
•lowering the corporate tax rate to 15%, which will incentivize multi-national corporations to come in and invest in our country again. We have let our inner cities go to hell. I actually do believe in systemic racism in that sense. All the jobs have evaporated and has led to high unemployment, crappy schools, and high crime rates. Incentivize some of these big companies like Apple and Ford to put plants in Cleveland, Philly, etc. Get these people into solid jobs. That's where the problems start. Get the economy going and you'll see a drastic improvement in the inner cities. Black unemployment rates are sky high and raising minimum wage, increasing regulations, corporate income taxes, etc will continue to be detrimental.
•repealing Obamacare, which has been a disaster. Rates are sky rocketing.
•Energy independence is the life blood of our economy. Trump is talking about fracking, clean coal, etc. All will lead to sustained, high paying jobs.
•Rebuilding our infrastructure. Will create thousands upon thousands of jobs.

My biggest concern is to see how he handles the deficit. Obviously, interest rates are going to have to increase which will hurt investment spending, but it will allow us to get this deficit under control a little bit.
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This thread is a fucking disaster. The amount of obvious trolling going on is disgraceful.

If you can't participate without either insulting others at seemingly every opportunity or intentionally trolling, then we'd all be better off if you just didn't even post at all. And if you continue to post like an obnoxious troll, I'll make those arrangements for you.
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Old 12-05-2016, 10:12 PM   #143
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Goblin vomit. Goblin slop. I just don't want to catch him in bed with a goblin.
There's actually a goblin scale.
Is he charging into a goblin's nest, hacking them to pieces?
Is he kissing goblins? Give him a stab and then give them a kiss?
Is he gonna be in bed with a goblin?
Then is he going to have babies with the goblin and turn against us like Darth Vader?
And ultimately, is he going to marry the goblins?
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Old 12-05-2016, 10:32 PM   #145
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Are we all our own states?
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•Lowering taxes puts more money in the pockets of the average folk. If you make under 40k a year, you will not pay a dime in federal income taxes. His tax plan is very favorable to the middle class and lower class especially.
•Cutting regulations will help small businesses, who have been hammered the last 8 years.
•lowering the corporate tax rate to 15%, which will incentivize multi-national corporations to come in and invest in our country again. We have let our inner cities go to hell. I actually do believe in systemic racism in that sense. All the jobs have evaporated and has led to high unemployment, crappy schools, and high crime rates. Incentivize some of these big companies like Apple and Ford to put plants in Cleveland, Philly, etc. Get these people into solid jobs. That's where the problems start. Get the economy going and you'll see a drastic improvement in the inner cities. Black unemployment rates are sky high and raising minimum wage, increasing regulations, corporate income taxes, etc will continue to be detrimental.
•repealing Obamacare, which has been a disaster. Rates are sky rocketing.
•Energy independence is the life blood of our economy. Trump is talking about fracking, clean coal, etc. All will lead to sustained, high paying jobs.
•Rebuilding our infrastructure. Will create thousands upon thousands of jobs.

My biggest concern is to see how he handles the deficit. Obviously, interest rates are going to have to increase which will hurt investment spending, but it will allow us to get this deficit under control a little bit.

A lot of this is great, but it's pie in the sky. And this is why so many are saying you got conned.

Cutting taxes - sounds wonderful but there's a wall you have to build and an ISIS you have to destroy. You will not see all of these, I'm sorry.

Cutting regulations - once again, selling you the short term killing the long term.

Lowering the corporate tax - do you have anything other then feelings that this trickle down dream has ever worked?

Repealing "Obamacare" - and what in its place?!

Rebuilding infrastructure - you guys love that term when there's an R behind it, you scream government bloat when there's a D behind it.

I feel like you fell for all the right platitudes, the same old song and dance, but unfortunately you didn't ask how?



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Are we all our own states?

No, since many of us are really similar to each other, some of us have to share.

No worries, it'll work out with no complaints, I promise.
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A lot of this is great, but it's pie in the sky. And this is why so many are saying you got conned.

Cutting taxes - sounds wonderful but there's a wall you have to build and an ISIS you have to destroy. You will not see all of these, I'm sorry.

Cutting regulations - once again, selling you the short term killing the long term.

Lowering the corporate tax - do you have anything other then feelings that this trickle down dream has ever worked?

Repealing "Obamacare" - and what in its place?!

Rebuilding infrastructure - you guys love that term when there's an R behind it, you scream government bloat when there's a D behind it.

I feel like you fell for all the right platitudes, the same old song and dance, but unfortunately you didn't ask how?



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Well. He hasn't even taken office yet. So let's see what happens and give him a chance. Right now he's playing games with the media, etc. until he gets into office.
I'll hold his feet to the fire. I want results, not just having a republican in the white house.
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I'll hold his feet to the fire. I want results, not just having a republican in the white house.

And I'll hold your feet to the fire on this.


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The belief that cutting taxes for wealthy people and deregulation bring sustainable economic growth for all is exactly what has put the white working class in the position it presently finds itself.
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Well. He hasn't even taken office yet. So let's see what happens and give him a chance. Right now he's playing games with the media, etc. until he gets into office.

What you see is what you get. He behaved the same way during the campaign, and he'll behave the same way in office. It's not an act; it's a personality disorder.


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And I'll hold your feet to the fire to hold my feet to the fire to hold Trump's feet to the fire.
It's a 360 win.
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This thread is a fucking disaster. The amount of obvious trolling going on is disgraceful.

If you can't participate without either insulting others at seemingly every opportunity or intentionally trolling, then we'd all be better off if you just didn't even post at all. And if you continue to post like an obnoxious troll, I'll make those arrangements for you.
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Bingo.
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Bob didn't care about race or bigotry. He just wanted to get rid of all the Mexicans and butt-raping hippies from Austin. Why can't you people see that? Sheesh.

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"Playing games with the media," would that be code for "daily twitter freak outs about SNL skits and other such 'mean' comments"?
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All the jobs have evaporated and has led to high unemployment, crappy schools, and high crime rates. Incentivize some of these big companies like Apple and Ford to put plants in Cleveland, Philly, etc. Get these people into solid jobs.
You are operating under seriously troubling levels of delusion if you think that a company like Apple is going to "put plants" in Cleveland and Philly. What are they going to do, force all the Chinese components manufacturers to move over? I mean wow.

In a sense this is actually great because if more of you think this way, the level of disappointment in Trump in 4 years will be epic.
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