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Old 12-05-2016, 02:39 PM   #61
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i really don't ever need to see or hear or read anything by or about David Duke. i wish he would FOAD.

again, good job, Trump voters. you've brought him back into the conversation.
it is really only the left that elevates this guy and the neo-nazis, klan, KKK, whatever

these groups have their little annual meetings in banquets rooms all the time and no one pays any attention. they may have said. 'Hail Mitt' in 2012 and no one cared to mention them.

And all the fake news, how much traffic was driven to those sites by people in here going to them? Each click = $$ great job feeding these leftists journalist grads finally making some money to pay towards their student loans,

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"There are many factors as to why Trump won that don't involve fake news," he says. "As much as I like Hillary, she was a poor candidate. She brought in a lot of baggage."
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Sucks being out of the WH?

Had to live with it for 8 years.

I only agreed with about 5% of what Obama did as President


this is totally different. no one would be saying this if JEB! were in the white house.

probably because there wouldn't be white supremacists in the white house, and JEB! would understand policy.
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oh, he must be right then. he has no reason to think otherwise.

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I only agreed with about 5% of what Obama did as President


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I guarantee you; that if you were honest, and not an information isolationist, that number would probably be in the 60s or higher.


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Gore and Trump met to talk climate change

The most important question raised here, looking at the picture, is;
 
When did Al Gore become Rodney Dangerfield?
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it is really only the left that elevates this guy and the neo-nazis, klan, KKK, whatever

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Riiiiiiiightt, it's all hyperbole.

There's a reason he would never denounce their endorsements, there was a reason the Klan endorsed their first major party candidate in decades. Trump could not have won without their votes. And now we have one in the WH.

Yay Trumpets


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Really sucked getting all those jobs back. Thanks Obama.

And marriage equality; who needs that?

You didn't hear? Those jobs were all not real, and merely supported by a government bleeding money in the name of fake jobs.

We will see the devastating impact of such policy when all of those jobs mysteriously disappear under the Trump administration. Of course, he will have "inherited" this problem. It won't be his fault, right??? Right?!?!
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Oh, please. The two situations aren't even close to being comparable.

And while I'm not a Republican, I would be okay with a Republican being president if it was clear they actually knew what the hell they were doing, and prepared for the job, put together a competent, intelligent cabinet, and wasn't supported by a member of the KKK.

Seriously, I'd really kind of like to hear you actually address that rather troubling detail for once.
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this is totally different. no one would be saying this if JEB! were in the white house.

probably because there wouldn't be white supremacists in the white house, and JEB! would understand policy.
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Oh, please. The two situations aren't even close to being comparable.



And while I'm not a Republican, I would be okay with a Republican being president if it was clear they actually knew what the hell they were doing, and prepared for the job, put together a competent, intelligent cabinet, and wasn't supported by a member of the KKK.



Seriously, I'd really kind of like to hear you actually address that rather troubling detail for once.

See deep's post above. In total agreement with his sentiments.


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Oh, please. The two situations aren't even close to being comparable.

And while I'm not a Republican, I would be okay with a Republican being president if it was clear they actually knew what the hell they were doing, and prepared for the job, put together a competent, intelligent cabinet, and wasn't supported by a member of the KKK.

Seriously, I'd really kind of like to hear you actually address that rather troubling detail for once.
The father of the Orlando murdered of gay Americans is "with HER"

He raised his son to hate gays.

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"We were in downtown Miami, Bayside, people were playing music. And he saw two men kissing each other in front of his wife and kid and he got very angry," Seddique told NBC. "They were kissing each other and touching each other and he said, 'Look at that. In front of my son they are doing that.' And then we were in the men's bathroom and men were kissing each other."


and he gets a preferred on camera location at her Orlando rally




Would Hillary have won the popular vote without Muslim Americans that are more intolerant of gays the Mike Pence has even been and also threat women as less than equal without the rights of even being able to decide how they want to dress??? I have heard Obama and Hillary speak more than once about the right to wear the hijab? Have you ever heard them ever once speak about the right to 'not' wear the hijab?
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deep, stop.
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deep's point is that the Orlando shooter's father has way more of a tangible tie to the HRC campaign than David Duke does to the Trump campaign


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deep's point is that the Orlando shooter's father has way more of a tangible tie to the HRC campaign than David Duke does to the Trump campaign


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Hi thank you, did I ask you to explain deep's point?

I don't know what you're on about with a "relevant tie."

Dear anyone who thinks Mr. Mateen is a relevant human being: I don't give a shit about some sweaty old Arab man who might have some cultural and religious undertones against gay people. Welcome to fucking America. More than half of your Trump brethren are just like this man. Yeah, so his SON is an evil, despicable human being who shot and killed 50 innocent human beings of my local community. Every single time you mention the senior Mateen as some criminal, fuck you. You're all Mr. Mateen, . That man hasn't done anything half of you don't currently do. So fuck off.

David Duke comparisons, you've got to be fucking kidding me.
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Which is a dumb point.

One is associated with a group who found solace and an ally in your asshole president's platform.

The other is just an asshole father who hated the other asshole.


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These three great religions all began with some backward thinking by today's standards. Two of them have had some reformation and are more tolerant and inclusive. Thank goodness Martin Luther pounded his notice on the door and began the reformation. The Christian faith is much better for his actions today. Judaism has had some reforms too.

Does anyone think if a Martin Luther challenged the Muslim faith he would be tolerated??

You can find Christian - gay groups alliances, Jewish - gay group alliances even Mormon- gay group alliances. Can you find Muslim - gay group alliances??
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I wonder what the difference is, deep.

Could it be that Islam is not a religion in the western world?

I wonder...?
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These three great religions all began with some backward thinking by today's standards. Two of them have had some reformation and are more tolerant and inclusive. Thank goodness Martin Luther pounded his notice on the door and began the reformation. The Christian faith is much better for his actions today. Judaism has had some reforms too.

Does anyone think if a Martin Luther challenged the Muslim faith he would be tolerated??

You can find Christian - gay groups alliances, Jewish - gay group alliances even Mormon- gay group alliances. Can you find Muslim - gay group alliances??

Are we using facts or feelings?

I mean a quick google search says yes, but I'm sure Hannity's feelings and feigned concern would say no.


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But out of curiosity I did do a google search for Trump Supporters Gay Alliance and found nothing.


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Some posters just love to keep playing the Duke card.

That's how we got to this point in the thread.

It's tiresome.

New topic:

I believe in future Presidential rankings George W Bush and Obama will both find themselves in the bottom 8 of Presidents.

In 2000 the national debt was 5.6 trillion. It is now approaching 20 trillion.

- Bush's neocon overreach lead to the unnecessary Iraq war. Plenty lost in blood and treasure.

- The housing collapse occurred under Bush's watch. Blame can be placed on both sides of the aisle, Wall Street, and the fiscal culture of the populace, but the buck stops with him.

Bush was bad.

- Where Bush had Cowboy diplomacy, Obama took a nuanced soft approach on the opposite end of the spectrum. Strongmen around the world took advantage of an America that was more hesitant. Isis grew in the void of a hasty telegraphed withdrawal from Iraq. (Bush and Obama together royally fucked up Mesopotamia)

- While the economy has recovered since the collapse. We've had 8 years of a Cateresque Malaise where GDP growth has never exceeded 3% in a quarter. Take home pay has been diminished for the majority of Americans by the ACA, which Obama promised would save families on average $2500 a year.

- Obama wanted to become the liberal Reagan and set the country on the path for a generational realignment. Instead he misread the mood of the country and overreached in his signature legislation without bipartisan support in his first 2 years. While personally popular, the Democrat party has been decimated from the state level to DC. Obama relied so heavily on executive orders that most of whatever 'legacy' remains will be undone.

The past 16 years have been marked by stale wage growth and a Beltway culture that became steroid-cronyism and increasingly out of touch with the people.






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