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Old 02-08-2002, 12:29 PM   #41
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There is nothing wrong with showing pride in country and patriotism...among ourselves. Do we really need to bombard the rest of the world with it all the time? They know who we are and what we stand for ...why drive it into the ground ? I can't imagine how it would be if say every time we turned on the tv or watched a movie we had to endure another sermon on the greatness of Aby Daby (or whatever) I would soon get tired of it...as I'm sure they would get tired of us praising ourselves all the time. We can still be proud of ourselves without making them feel like a bunch of wet socks because they are not one of us or making them angry because they know they enjoy the same things we do in their 'free' country.

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Old 02-08-2002, 04:22 PM   #42
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I'm not saying we're perfect, that we're the good guys all the time.
no, but you are saying you're never wrong

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Old 02-09-2002, 01:56 PM   #43
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no, but you are saying you're never wrong
Am I saying the U.S. is never wrong? Of course not: militarily, Vietnam was handled very poorly; economically, we should have never gotten off the gold standard; and even if Roe v. Wade was the right decision, it was for the wrong reasons.

(And I'm not introducing these observations to start further fights, just to point out that I don't think the U.S. is always right.)

And am I saying that I am personally never wrong? Again, no; if I misspeak or have my facts or statistics wrong, I will own up to it.

But at the same time, I do think that A) many of these issures are important enough that it's crucial to know the right thing to believe or do and B) I more-or-less know what that right thing is.

I know I'm going to piss off a LOT of people by saying that, but I also know that a lot of people think that THEY are right. If they didn't, they would argue so confidently.

And I also know that I'm among a very SMALL number of people who are criticized for thinking they are right.

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Old 02-10-2002, 02:42 AM   #44
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And I also know that I'm among a very SMALL number of people who are criticized for thinking they are right.

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Sadly Bubba.. You fall into the wrong political sect to apparently be Above and Immune to any sort of Criticism on doing the right thing... at least on this webboard.

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