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Old 01-13-2012, 12:23 PM   #381
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I haven't seen it, but I have heard that there's a Gingrich ad attacking Romney for speaking French. I believe Romney recorded a few sentences in French that was played at the Salt Lake Olympics and is not necessarily fluent in the language.

That Gingrich is distorting facts to suit his needs is besides the point, in my view. Even if Romney is fluent in a second language, who cares? To me it's another play for the anti-science, anti-intellectual base of the GOP. And I find that extremely sad.
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Old 01-13-2012, 01:34 PM   #382
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Isn't Colbert just making a point about PACs? When is the primary? Bet he 'pulls out' on the day before? Don't think he's actually going to 'spoil' the vote.
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Colbert won't actually be able to run--the deadline for getting on the SC ballot is long past, and write-ins aren't an option in that primary.

As for the Gingrich campaign's surreal anti-Romney "French connection" ad, it's been either savaged or completely ignored by every conservative publication, blog and website I've seen. The primary theme of the ad is that Romney's from Taxachusetts, "just like John Kerry"; it ticks off a list of Romney's less-than-sterling-conservative accomplishments as governor, then at the end suddenly and bizarrely segues to "...and just like John Kerry [clip of Kerry speaking French], Mitt Romney speaks French!" [clip of Romney speaking French] The background music also shifts to something rather cartoonish-sounding at that point, and it's not clear to me how serious the tone of that portion is actually intended to be. At any rate, it's an absurd line of attack, especially since Gingrich himself speaks French (and used French sources extensively in his doctoral dissertation). It wouldn't necessarily be surprising if Gingrich hadn't personally known about the ad in advance--he should have, of course, but the fact is that candidates' control over that process often slips at the height of the primary-season ad blitz. Then again, Gingrich does have a long history of playing desperate and dirty when besieged.
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it is kind of amazing, that the GOP primaries are basically over before they ever began

we have had one real primary, NH, people did go to the polls and vote, less than 100,000 people voted for Romney, about as many that could fit in the stadium where USC plays football.

and if you look at the actual delegates disbursed, Paul is not far behind Romney.

The evangelical leaders are meeting in Texas right now. They have 2 choices, the honest one, say Santorum is their man. The practical one, so they won't be irrelevant, say Romney has good values and is acceptable.

Let's see if they are honest or practical.

I do believe in 8 days, after SC this is over.
One of the quickest contested nominations conclusions, ever.
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my guess is they are going to go practical.

and avoid questions about the cult of Mormonism until November.

this will keep the firebrand conservatives from any self reflection. if/when Romney loses, they will say it was because he was too moderate and not conservative enough. like McCain and/or Dole.
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ok, back on topic.

how is Romney going to convince voters that he should be president because he made a quarter of a billion dollars by firing people and thinks that poor people simply envy him and his success?

discuss.
Well, if the anti-business rhetoric in your post catches on, he may find it difficult.

But that would be a pity because even though Romney's business experience was largely, in a sense, second hand as it with a consultancy, he is still a lot closer to being a candidate that can plausibly get American back to work than Obama, who had little or no political, let alone real world business experience, before taking office.
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Isn't Colbert just making a point about PACs? When is the primary? Bet he 'pulls out' on the day before? Don't think he's actually going to 'spoil' the vote.
Pretty much, yes. Still fun, though.

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it is kind of amazing, that the GOP primaries are basically over before they ever began
No kidding. It's already so planned out. Supposedly people hate Romney so much and yet he's winning. Either more people are voting for Romney than expected, and nobody's listening at all to voters, or this whole thing's (gasp!) at least slightly rigged (nooooooo). Who knows what the deal is.

As for Gingrich, ugh, can the guy just shut his face and disappear off to be with one of his endless stream of wives or something already?
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my guess is they are going to go practical.


they went with their (dark) hearts
after three rounds of balloting

Religious leaders rally behind Rick Santorum - latimes.com

Santorum is their man
they like Perry
and Gingrich

but do not like Romney.
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Well, if the anti-business rhetoric in your post catches on, he may find it difficult.

But that would be a pity because even though Romney's business experience was largely, in a sense, second hand as it with a consultancy, he is still a lot closer to being a candidate that can plausibly get American back to work than Obama, who had little or no political, let alone real world business experience, before taking office.
I don't think you are giving fair credit to the former community organizer. You gotta have mad skills and be a shrewd fighter to rise through the Chicago mafia political scene the way Barry did.
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As for Gingrich, ugh, can the guy just shut his face and disappear off to be with one of his endless stream of wives or something already?
You know what the funny part about that is? Romney, the mormon, only has one wife and has been married to her for 42 years. Kinda makes all that talk about the "cult of Mormonism " sound kinda silly doesn't it?
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SUMTER, S.C. — After a campaign event here on Saturday, a woman told Mitt Romney that she was jobless and broke. In response, Mr. Romney reached into his pocket and handed cash to the woman, Ruth Williams, 55, of Columbia.

Ms. Williams, a Republican, said in an interview that she does not have enough money to care for her 26-year-old son, who recently suffered a brain aneurysm. She said God told her to follow the Romney campaign, which she has been doing since Wednesday.

Ms. Williams would not say exactly how much Mr. Romney had given her, but out of the crumpled bills, a $20 bill was visible. The interaction happened as Mr. Romney signed autographs and shook hands after a speech at an American Legion here.

“He was just being kind,” she said. “I told him the plight of my family, and he was very generous.”

The exchange came as Mr. Romney’s rivals try to cast him as out of touch with average people in South Carolina. Mr. Romney’s personal wealth is estimated at between $190 million and $250 million.
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You know what the funny part about that is? Romney, the mormon, only has one wife and has been married to her for 42 years. Kinda makes all that talk about the "cult of Mormonism " sound kinda silly doesn't it?
another funny thing,
the two Mormons in the GOP field are the really quite moderate, looking at their past statements and service in public office
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You know what the funny part about that is? Romney, the mormon, only has one wife and has been married to her for 42 years. Kinda makes all that talk about the "cult of Mormonism " sound kinda silly doesn't it?
This is true! Excellent point .

That story about Romney giving the girl money is nice.
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That story about Romney giving the girl money is nice.


it would be better if she was lucky enough to live in Massachusetts so she'd have health insurance.
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it would be better if she was lucky enough to live in Massachusetts so she'd have health insurance.
Not his fault she doesn't.
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Not his fault she doesn't.


nope. but it shows the futility of relying on things like individual charity or, say, "churches" (like Ron Paul said) to dispense essential things like health care (or roads, or police, or fire departments, or education) to the population. so he gave her $100? will that even cover the co-pay if she's lucky enough to have insurance?

there are certain things only government has the organizational capacity to do. health care is one of them.
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nope. but it shows the futility of relying on things like individual charity or, say, "churches" (like Ron Paul said) to dispense essential things like health care (or roads, or police, or fire departments, or education) to the population. so he gave her $100? will that even cover the co-pay if she's lucky enough to have insurance?

there are certain things only government has the organizational capacity to do. health care is one of them.
Yes and presumably Mitt Romney agrees with this, as does Jon Huntsman, for example. So, 2 out of 5 of the GOP candidates are mad socialists. Not really the crazy party anymore, so.
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Yes and presumably Mitt Romney agrees with this, as does Jon Huntsman, for example. So, 2 out of 5 of the GOP candidates are mad socialists. Not really the crazy party anymore, so.


why, then, do they want to repeal the Affordable Care Act?

other than the fact that it came from Obama?
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why, then, do they want to repeal the Affordable Care Act?

other than the fact that it came from Obama?
well, as we know, they have to appeal to the wingnuts (the base) who think every thing Obama has done = bad. The same people who credited Bush for capturing Saddam, KSM, etc., but only gives credit for the killing of Bin Laden to the navy seals. Not Obama who approved the risky operation.

Anyway, when they say they want to repeal the ACA don't they mean de-fund it instead? I was under the impression there were built in protections to keep it from being repealed. Im asking because i honestly don't know.
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