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Right, how does anyone know we wouldn't be speaking Japanese?
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Right, how does anyone know we wouldn't be speaking Japanese?
dazzledbylight
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Thank you for some different insights. Since I'm on the older end of our posters- I remember mid-late 60's onward which included at least half of The Cold War. I know I heard some folks behind The Iron Curtain were dissatisfied. Soviet Leadership would deny.
Of course, here in the USA my liberal parents would also point out America's short comings ad well.
Did you have air raid drills? For a long time in NYC we'd have the sirens go off once a month? Even knowing it was just a test - i'd mentally freeze for x seconds. I can't remember when they stopped doing that. It took me some time to notice they had stopped!
The more violent ones imo are closer to 15- 20% percent. But they show up! They're kind, scarry, and dangerous. I'm afraid there might be some real nastiness if Biden wins.
.Yeah. Not all sides are "equal".
Oh, I hear you!
Eeeewwwwww. Glad I ate earlier.
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LuckyNumber7
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Guys, the flu kills 20,000 people. 150 people have died nbd libtards
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Not only that but soldiers in WWII didn’t wear masks!! We’ve become liberal PC wimps!!
A few days ago i heard one of the stupidest lines yet.
Since we’re not going out as much our immune systems are getting weaker. I was told this to my face (at distance)
I asked her if she’s ever opened her windows at home. If so, germs got in. Unless she lives in a sterile laboratory
She also won’t take the vaccine if one is ever available. Too many chemicals that cause issues.
I have some sympathy because people’s lives have been turned upside down and they’re restless. But it’s like just finding the stupidest ideas to latch on to.
A few days ago i heard one of the stupidest lines yet.
Since we’re not going out as much our immune systems are getting weaker. I was told this to my face (at distance)
I asked her if she’s ever opened her windows at home. If so, germs got in. Unless she lives in a sterile laboratory
She also won’t take the vaccine if one is ever available. Too many chemicals that cause issues.
I have some sympathy because people’s lives have been turned upside down and they’re restless. But it’s like just finding the stupidest ideas to latch on to.
LemonMelon
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Yeah, the immune system theory is ridiculous for most people. I go for walks every day with my daughter and with my dog and have been since before quarantine started. I wear a mask during the day because I'm certainly going to walk within 6 feet of someone, but there's guaranteed to be a baseline of viral exposure that I receive from going out daily.
The only people who should truly take the "stay at home" orders literally are the immunocompromised. Vitamin D deficiency has been correlated with severe cases of COVID-19 and sunlight also has antiviral properties. Go outside, get your immune system working, but wear a face covering, practice social distancing and avoid crowds.
The only people who should truly take the "stay at home" orders literally are the immunocompromised. Vitamin D deficiency has been correlated with severe cases of COVID-19 and sunlight also has antiviral properties. Go outside, get your immune system working, but wear a face covering, practice social distancing and avoid crowds.
And if you're walking down the street in full hazmat suit, please don't walk into traffic because you're so deathly afraid that the 2 seconds you pass within 6 feet of another person is going to put you in the ground, like the broseph I saw get hit by a bike at full speed yesterday.
The only group who is “missing out” on building immunity is comprised of young kids who go to daycare/preschool/kindergarten. My kids have never been this healthy for this long lol.
The rest of us aren’t building material immunity at age 40.
The rest of us aren’t building material immunity at age 40.
The FaceTime date didn’t go on much after that segment. She also didn’t understand why we were locked down when the hospitals weren’t stressed.
There’s a lot of ignorance out there. I don’t understand all of what’s going on but at the core i know that a pandemic isn’t just about me. My actions affect the health of others.
And this is concerning
https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/1261701460384985089?s=21
I've been wondering how/if people are dating these days.
I have an acquaintance who e-mailed me last week asking me to do her a favour (review the "voluntary separation" package her company is offering to her and let her know what I thought from a legal POV). I don't know her well enough to know much about her personal life except that she split up from her partner of 3 years late last year. Anyway, she tells me that she's carrying on with two affairs (both with married men) and that they are telling their wives that they're going out to get groceries/supplies for their parents when they come see her.
I'm sure she's not the only one. And then people wonder how this spreads.
I avoided the dating scene from March till now. From what i heard it was even more of the hook up scene than what’s typical for the online dating world haha. I have no desire for that.
Now there’s a lot of masked walks on the beach. FaceTime drinks. Zoom.
To be honest I’ve been just fine on my own for a long time but eventually with this lockdown I’m like ok maybe just a damn phone call would be nice!!
I feel like pandemic will turn into a religion / politics type subject. Too personal to really ask about. I will say surfing thru the profiles, lots of people wanting to get back to “normal”
dazzledbylight
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Yikes, headache! What an awful thing to see.
mikal
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It's going to take a while for the people to feel comfortable going out again!
The People:
https://twitter.com/John_Seravalli1/status/1261444813645328389?s=19
It's clear that quarantine fatigue is going to be a major issue, especially as the weather gets better... it's time to close down streets and relax open container laws so the inevitable is done safer.
The People:
https://twitter.com/John_Seravalli1/status/1261444813645328389?s=19
It's clear that quarantine fatigue is going to be a major issue, especially as the weather gets better... it's time to close down streets and relax open container laws so the inevitable is done safer.
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Absolutely.
I've been dealing with it for about 2 months, feels like 2 years. Everyone has had enough, its now a question of how do you balance some return to normalcy with safety. You can't keep people under stringent stay at home orders/advisory for any longer and you have to allow people to return to work, folks can't survive economically or emotionally/psychologically under current constraints for much, if any, longer.
Its a matter of striking the right balance and allowing folks to feel like they are on the path back without putting too many folks at risk. Very tricky to be sure, but we can't expect everyone will just stay home for many more months to come.
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Don’t spit, shower at home: Here are the new rules in MLB’s proposed plan for 2020 season
Teams will be allowed to have 50 players. By RONALD BLUM, AP
May 16, 2020
NEW YORK (AP) — Major League Baseball will look somewhat like high school ball this year under protocols to deal with the new coronavirus, with showers at ballparks discouraged and players possibly arriving in uniform, like they did when they were teenagers.
Team personnel will be banned from eating at restaurants on road trips.
Even the Phillie Phantic and Mr. Met will be missing, banned from the field along with all other team mascots.
The traditional exchange of lineup cards would be eliminated, along with high-fives, fist bumps, and bat boys and girls, according to a 67-page draft of Major League Baseball’s proposed 2020 Operations Manual. A copy was sent to teams Friday and obtained by The Associated Press. The guidelines, first reported by The Athletic, are subject to negotiation with the players’ association.
Teams will be allowed to have 50 players each under the plan, with the number active for each game still be negotiated.
Spitting is prohibited along with water jugs and the use of saunas, steam rooms, pools and cryotherapy chambers. Hitting in indoor cages is discouraged, batting gloves encouraged.
Batting practice pitchers are to wear masks, dugout telephones disinfected after each use. Players may not touch their face to give signs, and they’re not allowed to lick their fingers. Teams are encouraged to hold meetings outdoors, players spread apart.
Teams were asked to respond with their suggested input by May 22. The protocols were written by MLB senior vice presidents Patrick Houlihan, Bryan Seeley and Chris Young, and vice president Jon Coyles. Young is a former pitcher who retired after the 2017 season.
Protocols include details on testing for team staff, who are divided into three tiers. All others may not enter clubhouses, dugouts and the field.
Seats in the empty stands near the dugout should be used to maintain distance, according to diagrams in the manual, and the next day’s starting pitcher can’t sit in the dugout. Everyone must keep their distance during “The Star-Spangled Banner” and “God Bless America,”
Fielders are “encouraged to retreat several steps away from the baserunner” between pitches. First and third base coaches are not to approach baserunners or umpires, and players should not socialize with opponents.
Managers and coaches must wear masks while in the dugouts. The entire traveling party — including players — must wear personal protective equipment while on buses and flights. Restaurants are off limits on the road, including the ones in hotels, as are hotel fitness centers.
“We emphasize that this is a first draft, and will undergo several rounds of changes as we collect comments and suggestions from the clubs, the players’ association, players, and government officials,” deputy commissioner Dan Halem wrote in an email to owners, team presidents and CEOs, and general managers that accompanied the protocols.
“The document is designed to set minimum standards and identify best practices, but we have attempted to provide clubs with enough flexibility to achieve the desired health and safety objectives in a manner that is tailored to their particular circumstances, including ballpark configuration, location, and the nature of any local governmental regulations or restrictions,” Halem wrote.
Scoreboard video is prohibited but music allowed. While there won’t be fans, at least not at the start, it will provide a familiar background audio for the telecasts critical to MLB’s bottom line.
A ball will be thrown away after it is touched by multiple players, and throwing the ball around the infield will be discouraged. Personnel who rub baseballs with mud for the umpires must use gloves.
“Individuals must avoid any physical interactions (such as high-fives, fist bumps, or hugs) while at club facilities,” the manual says.
Tier 1 people in the plan include players, managers and coaches plus two each from among physicians, athletics trainers and bullpen catchers plus one strength and conditioning coach.
Tier 2 includes clubhouse staff, additional coaches, medical and training staff, traveling staff, owners, front office, translators, communications staff, video personnel, the head groundskeeper and security plus players’ union and MLB staff along with contractors.
Tier 3 covers broadcast personnel and other event services.
Players must wear masks while in restricted areas “except while on the field or engaging in other strenuous activities” and lockers must have at least 6 feet between them. If needed, temporary clubhouse space will be added, preferably outdoors or areas with better ventilation.
“Showering in club facilities should be discouraged,” the plan says. “To the extent showering occurs, clubs should explore modifications to facilities to allow for physical distancing and hygiene” such as installing partitions and limiting the number of players using the showers at the same time.
Teams “should consider requiring (on-field staff) to arrive at club facilities dressed for the day’s activities in order to limit time spent in the clubhouse or locker room.”
Only medical personnel allowed near injured players.
There will be staggered reporting dates for the resumption of spring training. When pitchers and catchers arrive, only five players may work out at a time. Then come full team workouts, with small groups encouraged but not required, followed by exhibition games. There will be intake screening upon arrival followed a self-quarantine for 24-48 hours until results are available. Players not assigned to big league team when the season starts will remain at spring training or another separate facility.
All games at spring training facilities in Florida and Arizona, whether exhibition or regular season, must be scheduled for 7-9 p.m. local time unless MLB gives specific consent.
A fifth umpire would be allowed when the temperature reaches a certain level, allowing for rotation, including sharing of plate umpire duties, Teams should take batting practice on back fields.
Among the road trip changes:
—Use of Uber, subways and public buses is banned.
—Private airports encouraged and if not available, teams are to use private aviation facilities to board and exit.
—Transportation Security Administration screen should take place at ballparks if it can be arranged.
—In-flight catering is limited.
—Lower floors are to be used if possible at hotels, so stairs can be used instead of elevators, and private areas arranged for entrances, exits and check-in.
—Six staggered bus trips will be scheduled to and from the ballpark.
Team staff, including players, will be given thermometers for self screening and are to take two tests in quick succession each morning.
At the ballpark, people will be given temperature checks twice a day and multiple fluid swabs each week. Comprehensive Drug Testing will collect samples and Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory in Salt Lake City is to provide results within 24 hours.
Family members of players, umpires and the households of anyone covered under the plan will be offered access to testing and PPE. The individuals are encouraged to avoid crowd when away from ballpark.
Anyone with a temperature of 100 or higher or who exhibits COVID-19 symptoms or has come in contact with someone confirmed to be infected will be subject to rapid testing at a nearby site. A person cannot rejoin the team until testing negative twice in tests taken at least 24 hours apart. The person also must not exhibit symptoms or COVID-19, and the team physician and MLB medical staff must determine the person not at risk.
If an individual is exposed to a person with an infection, that person must show no signs of disease, be tested daily for at least seven consecutive days and undergo more frequent temperature checks. The person also must wear a mask at all times except while on the field.
Each spring training and regular season ballpark must have dedicated testing and isolation areas. MLB also will offer testing of people who live in same household as covered individuals and to health care workers/first responders in big league cities.
Most tests will take saliva but there may be oral or nasal swabs. Blood samples will be collected less frequently for serology testing used to detect antibodies.
Teams will be allowed to have 50 players. By RONALD BLUM, AP
May 16, 2020
NEW YORK (AP) — Major League Baseball will look somewhat like high school ball this year under protocols to deal with the new coronavirus, with showers at ballparks discouraged and players possibly arriving in uniform, like they did when they were teenagers.
Team personnel will be banned from eating at restaurants on road trips.
Even the Phillie Phantic and Mr. Met will be missing, banned from the field along with all other team mascots.
The traditional exchange of lineup cards would be eliminated, along with high-fives, fist bumps, and bat boys and girls, according to a 67-page draft of Major League Baseball’s proposed 2020 Operations Manual. A copy was sent to teams Friday and obtained by The Associated Press. The guidelines, first reported by The Athletic, are subject to negotiation with the players’ association.
Teams will be allowed to have 50 players each under the plan, with the number active for each game still be negotiated.
Spitting is prohibited along with water jugs and the use of saunas, steam rooms, pools and cryotherapy chambers. Hitting in indoor cages is discouraged, batting gloves encouraged.
Batting practice pitchers are to wear masks, dugout telephones disinfected after each use. Players may not touch their face to give signs, and they’re not allowed to lick their fingers. Teams are encouraged to hold meetings outdoors, players spread apart.
Teams were asked to respond with their suggested input by May 22. The protocols were written by MLB senior vice presidents Patrick Houlihan, Bryan Seeley and Chris Young, and vice president Jon Coyles. Young is a former pitcher who retired after the 2017 season.
Protocols include details on testing for team staff, who are divided into three tiers. All others may not enter clubhouses, dugouts and the field.
Seats in the empty stands near the dugout should be used to maintain distance, according to diagrams in the manual, and the next day’s starting pitcher can’t sit in the dugout. Everyone must keep their distance during “The Star-Spangled Banner” and “God Bless America,”
Fielders are “encouraged to retreat several steps away from the baserunner” between pitches. First and third base coaches are not to approach baserunners or umpires, and players should not socialize with opponents.
Managers and coaches must wear masks while in the dugouts. The entire traveling party — including players — must wear personal protective equipment while on buses and flights. Restaurants are off limits on the road, including the ones in hotels, as are hotel fitness centers.
“We emphasize that this is a first draft, and will undergo several rounds of changes as we collect comments and suggestions from the clubs, the players’ association, players, and government officials,” deputy commissioner Dan Halem wrote in an email to owners, team presidents and CEOs, and general managers that accompanied the protocols.
“The document is designed to set minimum standards and identify best practices, but we have attempted to provide clubs with enough flexibility to achieve the desired health and safety objectives in a manner that is tailored to their particular circumstances, including ballpark configuration, location, and the nature of any local governmental regulations or restrictions,” Halem wrote.
Scoreboard video is prohibited but music allowed. While there won’t be fans, at least not at the start, it will provide a familiar background audio for the telecasts critical to MLB’s bottom line.
A ball will be thrown away after it is touched by multiple players, and throwing the ball around the infield will be discouraged. Personnel who rub baseballs with mud for the umpires must use gloves.
“Individuals must avoid any physical interactions (such as high-fives, fist bumps, or hugs) while at club facilities,” the manual says.
Tier 1 people in the plan include players, managers and coaches plus two each from among physicians, athletics trainers and bullpen catchers plus one strength and conditioning coach.
Tier 2 includes clubhouse staff, additional coaches, medical and training staff, traveling staff, owners, front office, translators, communications staff, video personnel, the head groundskeeper and security plus players’ union and MLB staff along with contractors.
Tier 3 covers broadcast personnel and other event services.
Players must wear masks while in restricted areas “except while on the field or engaging in other strenuous activities” and lockers must have at least 6 feet between them. If needed, temporary clubhouse space will be added, preferably outdoors or areas with better ventilation.
“Showering in club facilities should be discouraged,” the plan says. “To the extent showering occurs, clubs should explore modifications to facilities to allow for physical distancing and hygiene” such as installing partitions and limiting the number of players using the showers at the same time.
Teams “should consider requiring (on-field staff) to arrive at club facilities dressed for the day’s activities in order to limit time spent in the clubhouse or locker room.”
Only medical personnel allowed near injured players.
There will be staggered reporting dates for the resumption of spring training. When pitchers and catchers arrive, only five players may work out at a time. Then come full team workouts, with small groups encouraged but not required, followed by exhibition games. There will be intake screening upon arrival followed a self-quarantine for 24-48 hours until results are available. Players not assigned to big league team when the season starts will remain at spring training or another separate facility.
All games at spring training facilities in Florida and Arizona, whether exhibition or regular season, must be scheduled for 7-9 p.m. local time unless MLB gives specific consent.
A fifth umpire would be allowed when the temperature reaches a certain level, allowing for rotation, including sharing of plate umpire duties, Teams should take batting practice on back fields.
Among the road trip changes:
—Use of Uber, subways and public buses is banned.
—Private airports encouraged and if not available, teams are to use private aviation facilities to board and exit.
—Transportation Security Administration screen should take place at ballparks if it can be arranged.
—In-flight catering is limited.
—Lower floors are to be used if possible at hotels, so stairs can be used instead of elevators, and private areas arranged for entrances, exits and check-in.
—Six staggered bus trips will be scheduled to and from the ballpark.
Team staff, including players, will be given thermometers for self screening and are to take two tests in quick succession each morning.
At the ballpark, people will be given temperature checks twice a day and multiple fluid swabs each week. Comprehensive Drug Testing will collect samples and Sports Medicine Research and Testing Laboratory in Salt Lake City is to provide results within 24 hours.
Family members of players, umpires and the households of anyone covered under the plan will be offered access to testing and PPE. The individuals are encouraged to avoid crowd when away from ballpark.
Anyone with a temperature of 100 or higher or who exhibits COVID-19 symptoms or has come in contact with someone confirmed to be infected will be subject to rapid testing at a nearby site. A person cannot rejoin the team until testing negative twice in tests taken at least 24 hours apart. The person also must not exhibit symptoms or COVID-19, and the team physician and MLB medical staff must determine the person not at risk.
If an individual is exposed to a person with an infection, that person must show no signs of disease, be tested daily for at least seven consecutive days and undergo more frequent temperature checks. The person also must wear a mask at all times except while on the field.
Each spring training and regular season ballpark must have dedicated testing and isolation areas. MLB also will offer testing of people who live in same household as covered individuals and to health care workers/first responders in big league cities.
Most tests will take saliva but there may be oral or nasal swabs. Blood samples will be collected less frequently for serology testing used to detect antibodies.
https://twitter.com/nachristakis/status/1262012815663149058?s=21
Good thread on the Sweden experiment
Good thread on the Sweden experiment
DaveC
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god this sounds so robotic and boring (insert "lol yah its baseball" joke here). i don't know if i'll be able to watch more than one game of this.
they might as well just simulate the season day-by-day on Out Of The Park Baseball and go over the results on sportscentre every night.
i hate pretty much everything about these bastardized plans for the leagues to hastily come back under different rules without fans in the stands.
nobody who wins anything in 2020 under these rules is ever going to be seen as a legitimate champion.
just shut it all the fuck down until 2021 and come back like normal.
Sure let's just send another 500,000 people to the unemployment line because somebody may not see the winner of a shortened season as "legitimate".
DaveC
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i completely understand the economic reasons why they're trying to do this.
i'm still allowed to hate it as a sports fan.
i'm still allowed to hate it as a sports fan.
LuckyNumber7
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If the players stop spitting, my mother wouldn’t be so disgusted with the sport.
She’d still be bored.
Reaching new audiences!!
She’d still be bored.
Reaching new audiences!!
mikal
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"Don't Spit, Shower at Home" sounds like alternate lyrics to "Unknown Caller".
LemonMelon
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Looks like an enormous list of things that will be barely enforced after the first couple of days.
MrsSpringsteen
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Can anyone explain why scoreboard video would be prohibited? The games will be televised, so I just don't get that one.
It must be an obvious answer that I'm just blanking on because the rest of the rules are so exhaustive(ing).
It must be an obvious answer that I'm just blanking on because the rest of the rules are so exhaustive(ing).
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Hewson
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Probably so owners can save on their electric bills.
This one:
Should be interesting. So no pick offs and runners get huge leads to steal bases?
And no restaurants on the road. What do they do, pack 10 days worth of PB&J for each player?
My guess would be to prevent fans from gathering outside the stadiums... as many ballparks have screens that are visible from the outside at certain angles.
MrsSpringsteen
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That would make sense, I didn't even think of that.
I can't imagine the union agreeing to all of this. 67 pages
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