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Headache in a Suitcase said:the nfl doesn't want the pats to use video... fine. they're still gonna do it
AnnRKeyintheUSA said:Everyone involved should get at least as bad as Vick got (NFL suspension not jail)
zonelistener said:It's not cheating when the Patriots do it...right?
All of the teams get "tapes" in the NFL of the teams they will be playing. I have reviewed CDs left on airplanes by certain NFL teams we fly...they show the plays (so they can scout like Headache does). The videos do not show coaches calling in plays to the field.
There is prep, and there is cheating. It is like the difference between knowing how another poker player at your table plays, and knowing his actual cards.
And I agree, the video camera is a better technology than binoculars!
AnnRKeyintheUSA said:I can't understand why this latest cheating scandal is not a bigger deal than Michael Vick.
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Come on he knew what he was doing and that it was wrong. Everyone involved should get at least as bad as Vick got (NFL suspension not jail)
Headache in a Suitcase said:this is so silly... so what, if an offensive player notices that a coach or a player has a tell that will make it obvious what sort of rush they're in, is the offensive player to just ignore that? "oh, whoopsie, they're not smart enough to mix up their signals and i can tell everything they're gonna do before they do it... oh shucks, i better ignore that information. it wouldn't be right"
please.
AnnRKeyintheUSA said:Everyone involved should get at least as bad as Vick got (NFL suspension not jail)
Headache in a Suitcase said:that is one of the single most ridiculous statements i have ever read.
DaveC said:
To clarify my own position, despite my very obvious dislike for the Patriots, and the fact that this specific type of incident is cheating (it's against the rules, so it's cheating by definition)...I still agree somewhat with you Headache. Every team does (and should, if they're smart) scout opponents' signals and plays before the game. And watching the other sideline to try to pick up on those signals. What I disagree with is the use of the video camera, but I can't get myself all worked up over this because we all know every team does it (scout opponents' signals, not necessarily film them), it's a smart thing to do to get a competitive advantage.
Meanwhile, ESPN is shitting bricks, as if all 3 Super Bowls should be "asterisked"...give me a break.
If the Raiders had been caught doing this, we'd all be making "well clearly it does nothing for them" jokes. But since it's the Pats, it's like frickin' Watergate.
I honestly don't care too much about it. I feel like I ought to, but I don't.
AnnRKeyintheUSA said:Maybe you ppl would like to read some more 'ridiculous' statements on espn.com
DaveC said:
Those are all pretty batshit insane, too.
Headache in a Suitcase said:
and zoney... why not? every team, every player wants to get the best competitive advantage they possibly can. i mean if they're that good, why scout? who needs to review game tape if you have tom brady!
CTU2fan said:and it sure looks like the Colts know what's coming sometimes.
randhail said:Perhaps Bill purposely went out there Sunday to get caught. He didnt like all the hype surrounding the team and the talk of them going undefeated so he needed to do something to take the attention away from that. Mission accomplished. Not only that, but everybody seems to be taking their shots at the team which we only serve as motivation. I don't think many guys on the team enjoy the questioning of their accomplishments over the last six years, which will further fire this team up. They feel slighted over the smallest thing, I'm sure they feel quite slighted now. So congrats to Mangenius for being the reason why the Pats will go 19-0 with an average margin of victory of 45 points.