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I am EXCITED. omg
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SOE 17: Where The Album Has A Name - The Joshua Tree
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david
ONE love, blood, life
Haha, I think he has dealt with it just fine in the last 30 years.
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TheGeekyU2Fan
War Child
I want to go to Levi stadium!!!!!!!!!!
TheGeekyU2Fan
War Child
I am SO EXCITED!!!!!
popacrobat
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
kind of?
Mack_Again
Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS
Fuck I really want to go to the Boston show.
Y2K
Refugee
I find the locations listed for the tour dates to be kind of fascinating.
MetLife Stadium - East Rutherford, NJ: MetLife Stadium is in the shadow of NYC, and when the Super Bowl was played there, everyone couldn't help but market it as a NYC Super Bowl. This tour, though, very accurately bills the show as East Rutherford (just as the band usually has done through the years).
Levi's Stadium - San Francisco, CA: Levi's Stadium is in Santa Clara, a good 45 miles from SF (which with traffic, can take an eternity to travel from). And yet, SF is the billed city!
I wonder how these billings are dictated sometimes.
MetLife Stadium - East Rutherford, NJ: MetLife Stadium is in the shadow of NYC, and when the Super Bowl was played there, everyone couldn't help but market it as a NYC Super Bowl. This tour, though, very accurately bills the show as East Rutherford (just as the band usually has done through the years).
Levi's Stadium - San Francisco, CA: Levi's Stadium is in Santa Clara, a good 45 miles from SF (which with traffic, can take an eternity to travel from). And yet, SF is the billed city!
I wonder how these billings are dictated sometimes.
Dragonfave
New Yorker
While it's great they are at least mentioning SOE, it's been close to being done for a long time.
We were all joking how the election would force them to rethink and sure enough it did.
Release it. If it's got a bunch of happy songs on it, maybe that's what the world needs?
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We were all joking how the election would force them to rethink and sure enough it did.
Release it. If it's got a bunch of happy songs on it, maybe that's what the world needs?
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david
ONE love, blood, life
Apparently the world needs The Joshua Tree again.
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might be a contractual obligation. the state of new jersey owns and operates MetLife Stadium. maybe they've added something in to contracts saying that the shows must be referred to as being in New Jersey.
it is odd that they pick and choose where to be geographically accurate and where to be general.
trevgreg
Rock n' Roll Doggie
JamietheEdgefan
Refugee
Beyond maybe wanting to write a new song or two about it, I doubt Trump's election had a serious impact on SoE being delayed.
We heard the plans 'all went to shit' around September, and we knew with quite a bit of certainty that we weren't seeing an album in 2016 before the election results in November. So there was definitely another reason for delaying, but Trump is a clever public excuse for both delaying a likely finished album and making a tour centred around a 30 year old album somehow seem relevant and appropriate.
If the album was done - with upbeat music which the band felt could yield a hit - and there were no Live Nation obligations, I bet the band would release it right now saying "2016 was a tough year, here's something hopeful and optimistic in response to that".
I don't think the election really had anything to do with it, it was just that some people here wondered aloud (written) if Trump winning would mean Bono needs to write some new, protest songs for SOE
And Edge has kind of said that....they're just so hesitant.
What I believe is that all the talk of 14-16 songs, they really only have 7-8 finished. Since it took 5 months to finish a song like Ordinary Love, if that's the standard per song....no wonder it's taking years.
I just don't think they have the songs, and I'm not sure they'll have them by the fall. The excuse being SOE isn't the album the world needs right now.....
And Edge has kind of said that....they're just so hesitant.
What I believe is that all the talk of 14-16 songs, they really only have 7-8 finished. Since it took 5 months to finish a song like Ordinary Love, if that's the standard per song....no wonder it's taking years.
I just don't think they have the songs, and I'm not sure they'll have them by the fall. The excuse being SOE isn't the album the world needs right now.....
JamietheEdgefan
Refugee
I think some new material could be written about Trump's victory, but I think that would only be taking advantage of an album already being delayed by this obligation to play JT shows. If there wasn't that obligation, i doubt they'd delay SoE to write more relevant stuff, though maybe i'm wrong.
As for the status of SoE right now, I actually do think it's done. Chris Evans and Alan Cross, both reputable and both with links to the band, have stated it's done, plus we've had more than a couple of posters (who i consider reliable myself) say the same. I doubt all those rumblings would happen if the album wasn't done.
My concern is not that they won't complete it by late 2017, but that they'll second guess themselves and push it back into 2018. And beyond that, a fear that by 2018, they might think the concept of SoE/I&E is stale, and just decide to start from scratch with a new concept, leading to an album in 2019/2020. I think we have a good 50% chance of that.
As for the status of SoE right now, I actually do think it's done. Chris Evans and Alan Cross, both reputable and both with links to the band, have stated it's done, plus we've had more than a couple of posters (who i consider reliable myself) say the same. I doubt all those rumblings would happen if the album wasn't done.
My concern is not that they won't complete it by late 2017, but that they'll second guess themselves and push it back into 2018. And beyond that, a fear that by 2018, they might think the concept of SoE/I&E is stale, and just decide to start from scratch with a new concept, leading to an album in 2019/2020. I think we have a good 50% chance of that.
david
ONE love, blood, life
SOE delayed until the next elections.
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And Landover, MD is certainly not in DC.
You could take a boat
Brilliantly played!
Roland of Gilead
Gunslinger
March 9th is a Thursday this year. New (old) single and 30th anniversary of album release to drop around this time (Friday,10th?)?
Y2K
Refugee
You bet. Same for Dallas (Arlington) and Boston (Foxborough). You could technically call Pasadena part of Los Angeles, if you're talking about LA County.
disagree.
if the album were done and ready to their liking, they'd release it. there is no obligation to play Joshua Tree dates. they could have easily just played SOE dates (and i suspect that these dates were originally slated to be SOE dates).
criticism that they're too skittish to release anything is fair - but they wouldn't delay an album they were confident in just to tour the Joshua Tree. that's silly.
david
ONE love, blood, life
Man, the live transition of Streets/Still Haven't/With or Without You is going to be weird.
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trojanchick99
Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB
Anyone who has tried to drive into and out of the Rose Bowl knows it's not in LA. Sigh.
PS. I've already started the list. It's next to the 18th hole of the golf course/parking lot. If you get here soon, you may be under 1000.
PS. I've already started the list. It's next to the 18th hole of the golf course/parking lot. If you get here soon, you may be under 1000.
hibricc
Refugee
They still might not play it in order, despite Edge's remarks. Adam said on RTE this morning that they haven't worked out how that will work yet. It wouldn't shock me if once they get into tour rehearsals, they decide not to play it in order. Personally, I think Streets makes a helluva closer, maybe transitioning out of Still Haven't?
Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
Roland of Gilead
Gunslinger
Running to Stand Still segue into Streets? Maybe that could work? Might as well try some thing new like that out here right? 
Hewson
Blue Crack Supplier
Irvine511
Blue Crack Supplier
if i had to guess right now, they'll probably come out roaring and play 4-6 of their most important pre-JT songs, end with ASOH, then stop, talk about JT, and play it in it's entirety. then after the intermission/break, they'll come out roaring with the Fuck-Trump "Desire" and get all political as they build to the future, move from anger to '00's joy, and do 1-2 SOE songs. why not play new songs for all these people who bought tickets to motivate them to buy the album in the fall?
it's what i would do.
it's what i would do.
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