If the Democrats can't win 2020 whether they try to impeach Trump or not they should fold as a political institution.
If the Democrats can't win 2020 whether they try to impeach Trump or not they should fold as a political institution.
It's not the American people I'm worried about in regards to 2020. It's the Democratic party.You’re putting way too much trust in the American people to not say “hold my beer” twice.
I agree with just using it all against Trump rather than impeachment. Impeachment just plays right into his narcissistic victimhood.
Well I wasn't responding to you then
I agree with just using it all against Trump rather than impeachment. Impeachment just plays right into his narcissistic victimhood.
Personally I think he should be impeached, but Trump is so far gone that I think impeachment might actually work in his favor politically. It's always backward logic with him. He's teflon Don.
I'm sorry I've been told over and over in here that third party candidates don't actually impact elections so I don't know who you're talking about.yea i do, also al gore and donald trump are totally comparable campaigners too. ralph who?
Personally I think he should be impeached, but Trump is so far gone that I think impeachment might actually work in his favor politically. It's always backward logic with him. He's teflon Don.
In the back of my mind I hope he could be so worn down that he'd call it a day and not run again.
And if he wins?
Oh, well, we didn't think we should impeach then. But now that we lost we do!
This all sounds a lot like "man, something shitty is going on here but ehhhhh he's never going to win so we're not going to pursue it further or make it public. They go low we go high tee hee."
The point? The point would be doing their fucking jobs.I disagree with this. No matter what, the Senate will not convict after the House impeaches. In fact, as long as McConnell is in charge in the Senate, I wouldn't be shocked if it never even came to a vote.
Why should the House expend the political capital and invite all the rage from the Trump supporter cult when it 100% will not even lead to Trump being removed from office? If I thought for a minute the Senate might convict, I'd be for it, but it's not gonna happen.
There is no path to anything tangible or practical happening in terms of removing him from office. What would the point be of the House impeaching? It would just be theater - it wouldn't do anything other than make the right hate the left more than it already does and energize Trump's base heading into an election.
Exactly.
You either do it now, or simply let him get away with it.
But one way at least says that you're not okay with his getting away with it, and pushes the onus of responsibility onto the GOP.He gets away with it either way. The Senate will not convict. He will not be removed from office. If the House goes through with the theater of impeaching him, what happens then that stops him from 'getting away with it'?
You think I wouldn't love to see him dragged out of the WH in cuffs? I wouldn't complain if the House went through with it but I absolutely understand their reasoning for not doing it(if they don't do it).
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I will be astonished if he resigns, but maybe some kind of new crazy stuff that would lead in that direction would play out.
Truthfully each path has it's own perils.
Can Pence be impeached, too. He seems to have known a lot.
Then we might also see his authoritarian Christian Uber Right-wingers appear from under their rocks even more. A whole lot of Americans would not put up with that bi don't think. ( i hope)