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Remember when he wore a tan suit and Hannity had a stroke?
Ahhh those were the days
Ahhh those were the days
Irvine511
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And Michelle and her BARE ARMS.
dabiggestu2fan
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Remember the time Obama’ got called all kinds of bad things at the mare suggestion he made that he would be willing to talk to the enemies?? Remember when trump got called a hero for doing the very thing that Obama suggested? Trumpsters and FOX seem to have conveniently forgotten what they said about Obama when he suggested the exact same thing trump is doing.
LuckyNumber7
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The issues at the border appear to finally be the breaking point for the press corps and Huckabee-Sanders.
I guess they don't care about her smokey eye anymore.
I guess they don't care about her smokey eye anymore.
LuckyNumber7
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What a surprise, James Comey is still loathed by all.
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Obama looked spectacular in that tan suit.
Moonlit_Angel
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Speaking for myself, I have no problem in general with a president meeting with dictators in the hopes of trying to ease whatever tensions are flaring up between our country (or that of our allies) and them. Sometimes you gotta do what you need to do as president to help keep things stable, even if it means meeting with some really shitty leaders in the process.
My issue with Trump meeting with Kim is that it's...well, Trump. I would trust Obama to have a good meeting with Kim. I would trust some of the other Republicans who ran for president in 2016 to meet with Kim. I would've trusted Hillary to meet with Kim. Those people are experienced, they're smart, they would be acting in our country's best interests and that of our allies (and hell, the North Korean people's interests, too), they behave like mature human beings when they speak in public. I wouldn't have to worry about them fucking things up somehow.
I have no trust that Trump, in all his obnoxious glory, meeting with Kim will solve our problems, and so far, he's proving me right. He has yet to do a single thing that benefits this country in any way, shape, or form. Everything he does is for his benefit and his benefit alone. I'm certainly hopeful that North Korea can settle down and eventually get to a point where they're no longer a threat to anyone, be it us or South Korea or their own citizens or whatever, and I'm certainly not rooting for any attempts for the U.S. to meet and work with Kim to fail. I just wish to God it were anyone other than Trump leading this interaction.
But yeah, it will forever amaze me how Trump can get by with doing and saying the very things that any other politician would be crucified for. What the hell is it about Trump specifically that is making so many people just shrug and move on and act like his crap is no big deal? I don't even think some other Republican politicians would get away with saying and doing half that stuff.
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LuckyNumber7
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I have zero criticism over Trump simply meeting Kim. I think formalities are stupid and those rules are made to be broken. Yeah, he’s Trump, but we had two other options. The status quo, or war. I think a concerted effort is due its chance before we continue either of the other two choices.
I really hope these two egos get along. Give the man a peace prize if he’s successful, I don’t care. I hope for the greater good, I hope we gets to flail his ego all across the table and I hope it’s unfortunate re-election ammo, I don’t care.
I really hope these two egos get along. Give the man a peace prize if he’s successful, I don’t care. I hope for the greater good, I hope we gets to flail his ego all across the table and I hope it’s unfortunate re-election ammo, I don’t care.
corianderstem
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I have no problem with them meeting. And I understand one has to walk a fine line to not talk shit about a murderous dictator to keep dialogue open. It requires nuance and intelligence.
So naturally we get a guy who can has neither, and therefore sounds like he admires the dictator.
So naturally we get a guy who can has neither, and therefore sounds like he admires the dictator.
The issue is not in that he met Kim. The issue is the meeting was merely a photo opp.
A meeting with the sitting president of the United States is something the North Koreans have been after for decades. It still carries extraordinary weight, despite Trump's best tries to tear that down. It should have been used as a bargaining chip.
Obama met with Raul Castro AFTER diplomatic relations were restored with Cuba. Things had to be in place first for it to happen. It was the end game.
Trump just did this for the likes.
We didn't get anything from it. Kim agreed to the same thing he already told the South Koreans. We gave his refimie legitimacy and concessions on wat games in exchange for nothing.
A meeting with the sitting president of the United States is something the North Koreans have been after for decades. It still carries extraordinary weight, despite Trump's best tries to tear that down. It should have been used as a bargaining chip.
Obama met with Raul Castro AFTER diplomatic relations were restored with Cuba. Things had to be in place first for it to happen. It was the end game.
Trump just did this for the likes.
We didn't get anything from it. Kim agreed to the same thing he already told the South Koreans. We gave his refimie legitimacy and concessions on wat games in exchange for nothing.
Trump on Kim: “He speaks and his people sit up for attention. I want my people to do the same”
Danny Boy
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Trump speaks and I change the channel.
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oh crap, Headache beat me to it!
BoMac
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Hahahaha oh my god lol lol he actually fed them to dogs hahahaha wink wink lolz
Irvine511
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but the suit contains substantial evidence that the Trumps violated numerous federal laws, some of them tied to the 2016 presidential campaign, which Sessions was a critical part of.
Well this is true, but I imagine those will now be separate investigations, which yes, the racist Keebler elf should recuse himself from.
I called my congressman and senators today to urge them to take action against the separation of families at the border. I urge you guys to do the same, if you haven’t already.
(Sorry for the overly earnest tone, but holy shit, the entire country should be ready to revolt over this)
(Sorry for the overly earnest tone, but holy shit, the entire country should be ready to revolt over this)
Irvine511
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I wish I had a Senator or a Congressional representative who votes ... also, jail for Manafort. Ha ha.
And the sad thing is, no one will. Just protest which will fall on deaf ears. We need civil disobedience in this country, even if it leads to forms of terrorism or even the long-awaited civil war.
Sorry if I sound dramatic or even morbid, but I really feel that the reason why no one is protesting like they did in the 60s or doing civil disobedience is because people dread another civil war in this country. Some wacky right-wingers would be more than happy to get out their guns and shoot at left-wingers, because as they see it, we're a threat to their vision for this country. We're the atheist-socialist-communist-Marxists funded by George Soros, and all that other crap.
Anyway, I am too upset at the state my country is in, and I dread the future. No way is Trump going away. He's going to try to make himself dictator, and no one - not even the GOP or the Democrats - will do anything about it. Even the military won't do shit.
BoMac
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I'm gonna do with apathy over fear of civil war myself...
On a lighter note, here's a list of ways to help and/or donate to those at the border:
https://familiesbelong.org/more-ways-to-help/
https://familiesbelong.org/more-ways-to-help/
It could be apathy, though a few people I've talked to have brought up the possibility of another civil war. There's just so much hate between the two political sides that it could lead to that, if the spark is lit somehow, at some point.
There is zero immediate risk of civl war.
You need desperation for civil war. We are not that society.
Well off people tend not to protest. That's why you see these huge one off protests that then go away, and why people aren't rioting in the streets on a daily basis.
We're comfortable as a society.
Now if we have another crash of the economy, worse than the late 2000s? 20-30 some odd years down the line if resources continue to dwindle and global warming begins to make actual impacts on the every day living of large swaths of the population? Then perhaps the risk would increase.
Right now? Come on.
You need desperation for civil war. We are not that society.
Well off people tend not to protest. That's why you see these huge one off protests that then go away, and why people aren't rioting in the streets on a daily basis.
We're comfortable as a society.
Now if we have another crash of the economy, worse than the late 2000s? 20-30 some odd years down the line if resources continue to dwindle and global warming begins to make actual impacts on the every day living of large swaths of the population? Then perhaps the risk would increase.
Right now? Come on.
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