u2granny
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My interest is in their music. I could care less about hair length or thickness, private or public extracurricular activities of any of the band members, or the U2 juggernaut.
MrBrau1 said:Imagine seeing this thing on a record store shelf in the summer of 1991.
You might pick it up. Hell, if you're a U2 fan, you would pick it up. Here's the back cover you'd have seen.
Pretty vague Huh?
But poor Negativeland. How sad for them.
MrBrau1 said:The whole "whoa is me" act is bullshit.
indra said:
It should have been filed in the "N" section of the store, so that should have given people a clue.
MrBrau1 said:Negativeland deserved whatever they got. They were incredibly stupid. The whole "whoa is me" act is bullshit.
And it wasn't Bono and Edge pressing legal action. It was the record company. 2 very different things.
I know 2 people who bought that CD thinking it was the new U2 release.
Casey Kasem sued the hell out of Negativeland as well.
U2Girl1978 said:
Wasn't there audio with Casey blowing his top on air? It was quite amusing.
MrBrau1 said:To this day you'll find this album in the U2 section at many record shops. And when it's on that big shelf behind the counter it screams out "U2 record."
corianderstem said:Is it still even in print?
MrBrau1 said:
That's what this record was. "ISHFWILF" mixed with Casey going apeshit.
You mean the poster who said they were a friend and posted like 3 posts and then never backed up anything?Anu said:
Allegedly, the person who originally created the COEXIST logo approached Bono about getting some credit for that -- not money or some kind of proprietarian shit -- and apparently ran into some problems.
Anu said:
Remember the band suing that woman for the hat? And threatening legal action against websites like this and many others over copyright issues? And not publicly allowing taping of the shows as so many fan-based bands do?
The band is the corporation is the band, and they are the biggest in the world. Sure I miss the old days when this wasn't so painfully obvious and irrefutably true, but I still love them despite themselves and myself.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
You mean the poster who said they were a friend and posted like 3 posts and then never backed up anything?
Did U2 ever merchendize or make money off of "COEXIST"? Not to my knowledge...
Anu said:
Let me be clear, though, I don't think any of this is a big deal (borrowing images, sound bytes, what have you), but U2 have *not* joined the movement of many other bands to make their music free for their fans who have already paid them for their work many times over.
I am not in favor of draconian copyright law; I am in favor of the richest band in the world willfully apologizing to Negativeland and giving away live recordings and some general spirit to the music-trading, swapping, giving movement.
BonoVoxSupastar said:
I follow very few bands that actually give out their music, and think the feeling that anyone is privelaged to free music is a selfish one.
Anu said:
For starters, a person could go to archive.org and find their music section. There, plenty of bands' shows are available for free, and a visitor can read the definition of a 'taper-friendly' artist.
This weekend, I will be at a festival where fans' recording devices are explicitly permitted. Plenty of great, successful acts on that bill.
So who is "selfish" here? I'll let Bono take this one.
Anu said:
Lots of great bands share their music and sell their music, both. The two ideas are not mutually exclusive. I, for one, spend a huge chunk of my "hard earned" on the musicians I love.
For starters, a person could go to archive.org and find their music section. There, plenty of bands' shows are available for free, and a visitor can read the definition of a 'taper-friendly' artist.
This weekend, I will be at a festival where fans' recording devices are explicitly permitted. Plenty of great, successful acts on that bill.
So who is "selfish" here? I'll let Bono take this one.
I'll leave this post with a line from U2 by U2 that explains that it's not U2 band versus U2 corporation because the two are the same and the original five are co-CEOs:
"Artists are as greedy and selfish as anyone else. We are in business, we are tradesmen who, in the Middle Ages, would wander from town to town selling our wares. Get over it. And we try to do the best deals we can for those songs. We try to protect them by not having people steal them."
(found on page 330; look it up.)
CPTLCTYGOOFBALL said:
I mean, do you want them to supply people with the blank CD Roms as well?
Anu said:I'm just not over it. I want the prophet of the poor, the zillionaire philanthropist to not look the other way (wink wink) at bootlegs at his shows, I want him to openly condone them.