Vlad n U 2
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Sanders always reminded me of some Latin American populists, which I tend to really detest coming from that region. That said, I'm not sure "socialism" would have been a big flaw in an election where the winner was explicitly tied to Russia.
In hindsight, Biden would have possibly been the best nominee to keep the blue collar defection in check while rallying the minorities and other traditional constituencies.
But here's the thing about populism: it's fucking hard to stop it.
I did get the impression you weren't particularly left-of-centre when it came to Latin American politics.
Or will there be a movement to fast track Michelle Obama into contention?
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Please no. No political dynasties, thanks.
oh man that's heartbreaking
the split vote (everything other than Le Pen Front National) will be a big worry here in France next year too - normally the French do a protest vote in the 1st round and Le Pen gets thru to the second round and then they panic and get their shit together to do a strategic vote to keep the extremists out - this has worked since 2002, but my main worry is, seeing as the "anti-establishment" votes here (especially among young people) seem to be split equally between far left and extreme right, if the socialists and centre parties don't get their act together and far left Melenchon gets thru, i don't think he will stand a chance against Le Pen in the final round - we need the centrists (hopefully Juppe) to get thru and face off against Le Pen - sobering and terrifying times
as opposed to Brexit and Trump, where it was mainly the older generations who pushed it thru, apparently that is not the case in France as the older generations still acutely remember occupation and post-war times here... the young people are so divided here it's so worrying
I'm hoping Melenchon does well, or at least Nuit Debout could get back up and running (I'm not sure if it's still active or if it's hardly reported now). I was encouraged by the intensification of trade union/worker activity in response to the French government.