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Okay, time to listen to that Yahweh alternate version again.
MrBrau1 said:Except for Yahweh, the "Alt" versions are unfocused, 1/2 assed sketches.
Earnie Shavers said:I just head the alternate Sometimes. It's just as shit as the album one.
But now I'm listening to Xanax again. I REALLY fucking like this song. Damn shame. Stupid fucking Larry or whichever monkey it was who convinced them to make a tacky pop album....
MrBrau1 said:Except for Yahweh, the "Alt" versions are unfocused, 1/2 assed sketches. Which makes sense, since the Alt Yahweh is simply a mix which almost made the album.
U2girl said:
Exactly.
1. Vertigo is more finished.
2. Sometimes: Please. The album version walks all over the outtake. I prefer the lyrics (and the build up to the "sing" line is far better on the album, plus one of their most beautiful choruses ever IMO) and ESPECIALLY the music: instead of a syrupy piano-ish outtake we got a proper rock ballad.
3. All because of you: the album version feels a lot more finished.
4. Yahweh: prefer the soaring album version over the outtake.
5. Fast cars: while Xanax and Wine would feel like just another guitar-y song, Fast cars is more interesting with the acoustic guitar that gives it a more Arabic/Middle eastern feel. [/B]
MrBrau1 said:Except for Yahweh, the "Alt" versions are unfocused, 1/2 assed sketches. Which makes sense, since the Alt Yahweh is simply a mix which almost made the album.
namkcuR said:
What is that comment supposed to mean? It's a fluff meaningless comment dressed up to look like it means something. I agree that the guitar solo in Vertigo is more powerful and very reminiscent of the early 80s U2, but Native Son sounds damn good too, and damn sure not unfinished.
It means exactly what it says. Vertigo is a fnished song, Native son isn't - it's a sketch like MrBrau1 said.
Stop calling it an 'outtake'. Don't you get that that was probably going to be the final version of the song before Lillywhite came in and said 'no that's not a chorus, that's the payoff of a chorus, you need something before it', to which the band responded by adidng in the falsettos. There's a separate thread about Sometimes a few threads below this one if you wish to know more in-depth my thoughts about why the alternate version is better.
It would have more weight if you actually were in the studio to make such claims. You could just as well say ATYCLB and HTDAAB Itunes song were going to be on those albums.
To me, outtakes can be anything from demos to songs that didn't make the album (until different versions came along).
See the first half of my Vertigo comments above. Both versions have their ups and downs.
See also my comments above.
And I prefer the alternate version for its more subtle, zooropa-esque, feel and atmosphere.
Fair enough.
I like both equally.
I like Xanax as well.
AtomicBono said:I'm sure there were plenty of threads like these when the Complete U2 first came out, but that was a long time ago... I've been listening to the alternate versions of All Because of You and Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own, and I think they're better. In fact, I think almost all of the alternate versions are better...
1. Vertigo VS Native Son
This is a tough call, I think overall Vertigo is better but Native Son is very powerful...it's more risky, it's political, it's U2. Plus the bridge with "PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE" is amazing, they should try that live sometime since they're playing Vertigo so much.
2. Sometimes...
The alternate version is so much more mournful and personal, it seems much more like Bono's song. For example, instead of swelling during "the note", the music pulls away, and you can hear the fragility in Bono's voice. In terms of a good single, the final version is better (and I do like the falsetto chorus) but overall the alternate version, for me, is far more moving...
3. All Because of You
The alternate version has more energy, variety, better lyrics, better delivery. It's just BETTER. It's even CATCHIER.
4. Yahweh
The alternate version, again, is far superior. The bass is deeper and more prominent, the bridge is better ("Take these blue eyes...take these eyes and make them see"), the drums are better (especially at the end). Also at the end there's this powerful note that's hit twice I think on a guitar, it's hard to describe, it's an overdub and something about it just really hits me.
5. Fast Cars VS Xanax and Wine
Fast Cars is more "experimental," it's got that kinda Eastern sound... but Xanax and Wine, in my opinion, is a better song. It's catchier and more rockin' and I like the falsetto.
Originally posted by U2girl It means exactly what it says. Vertigo is a fnished song, Native son isn't - it's a sketch like MrBrau1 said.
Earnie Shavers said:
You have to imagine Native Son getting that final polish that it would have gotten before going onto an album, then compare it to Vertigo. I definitely think they took a very good, complete rock song in Native Son, robbed it for it's catchiest bits, and edited them together to make the gimmicky 'play us on the radio, dammit' Vertigo.
macphisto23 said:Can somebody please send me the alt version of "Sometime you cant make it on your own" please.
macphisto23@hotmail.com
ultraviolet7 said:I frankly think that the problem here is the lack of really good songs, at least in the proportion U2 used to come up with in the past for a new release.
ponkine said:
I 100% agree, that´s reality, sad but true
ponkine said:
I 100% agree, that´s reality, sad but true
Sleep Over Jack said:
The reality is that you are an idiot.
Sleep Over Jack said:
The reality is that you are an idiot.
AtomicBono said:
The songs don't seem that unfinished to me... They don't quite have that "polish" but most of them seem pretty finished, I don't know what else you'd add to them?? More strings and synths and random shit?? They're raw and I like that.